Expanding Asset

billybass wrote on 12/25/2003, 12:22 PM

No this isn't an ate to much for Christmas joke. I've got something going on that has me stumped, here goes.
57 minute DV camera video rendered to a DVDA NTSC video stream using MainConcept mpeg2. Resulting files size is 2.55 gigs
Audio rendered as 48k pcm file size 650megs
Bring the mpg into DVDA and look at the DVD optimize and the video has a green check mark and when I tell it that the audio is pcm it gives me a green check mark. The file size with the audio and video combined is now 3.4gigs looks good so far.
Back to main screen and right click on asset and Insert Scene Selection Menu. Go back to Optimize DVD and my asset has now increased to 4.3gigs and has a yellow diamond. This doesn't make sense to me, but I let it go and tried preparing the DVD anyway. The prepare dialog doesn't give me any warning about the yellow diamonded asset so I let it go ahead and prepare.
It was getting close to 3 hours of 'rendering' , what I don't know, when it crashed with an unexplained error.
I can make this movie without scene selection menus, but would be nice to have. Any thoughts out there?

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Liam_Vegas wrote on 12/25/2003, 6:56 PM

How is that scene selection menu setup? Does it have a motion background? Length? Looping? Do you have the "movie" icons setup to be showing a motion video of the chapter points? All that would add considerably to the rendering time required to generate the menus. I doubt that any of that would add up to 1GB of MPEG rendering that you end up with... but you never know!

Also... any reason why you chose PCM rather than AC3 (which is a much smaller file size). Not sure that would have any bearing on THIS issue... but you never know.

billybass wrote on 12/26/2003, 4:09 AM

Nothing added, just select "insert scene selection menu... " There are 9 chapter markers that where inserted in VV. The scene selection menu offers 3 chapters per page which I except. I've also tried making one screen with 9 chapters, same result. The mpg asset, ie, the movie file is what is increasing in size in the optimize dialog.

billybass wrote on 12/27/2003, 4:30 PM

Finally figured out what was going on here. I was able to prepare a RW disc and play it on a set top box. When I tried to access the last scene the player would do nothing. When I tried playing the burn files with power dvd on the computer it would play the first scene when I asked it to play the last scene. Previewed ok in DVDA by the way(bug) .Something made me think I out to look at the wave file in Soundforge. I found the chapter markers where not in the same place as the video markers. This happened because I rendered out the wave file and then went back at a later day to the video file and made some changes that involved moving markers(chapter points) and forgot to re-render the audio, so the two files had a different marker involved with the last scene. Pesky markers!

Liam_Vegas wrote on 12/28/2003, 3:28 PM

Thanks for posting the answer to this issue... it was am mighty strange effect..

farss wrote on 12/29/2003, 3:43 AM

This is interesting, I've had many strange things of a similar nature happen with DVDA. Last project it kept complaining that I had markers too close together although every compiled and played just fine. Probably it's best not to include markers with the audio file.
What I had in this case was a very long menu background video. I'd prerendered the audio as ac3 and the of course DVDA has to encode the menu from an AVI. It seems maybe the markers got slightly out of sync in this process even though they aren't used anywhere they were picked up as having problems.

I think in future I'll make a point of not including markers in the audio files.

billybass wrote on 12/29/2003, 4:52 AM

Vegas defaults to add markers,ie the chapter points you insert, to the audio file when you render. If you don't want the markers uncheck the box in the render as dialog.