Expect Price for V12Pro and offers

videoITguy wrote on 9/13/2012, 6:52 PM
Full Compass
is now listing Vegas Pro 12 Edit and Vegas Pro 12:
Their price is currently showing as $399 for Vegas Pro Edit, and $545 for the full package creative suite with DVD Architect and Dolby Pro.
www.fullcompass.com/product/433894.html
www.fullcompass.com/product/433895.html

The Full Compass pages say product is expected to be ready to ship in 1-2 weeks, but sometimes websites accidentally have pages go live before they actually intend to.

VideoGuys IBC special announcement:
Sony Vegas Pro 12cs will be available in 2 editions:
Sony Vegas Pro Edit (abt $400 US retail) is a new, lower cost package featuring all of the editing capabilities of Vegas Pro 12, without DVD Architect and the Pro Dolby Encoder software.

Sony Vegas Pro 12 Collection Creative Suite (about $600-660 US retail), includes Vegas Pro 12 Edit plus DVD Architect™ Pro 5.2, and Dolby® Digital Professional Encoder, in an integrated production environment designed for a new generation of creative professionals.

Buy Vegas Pro 11 before 9/28/12 & Get a FREE Upgrade to Vegas Pro 12 Collection Creative Suite ...Use Videoguys coupon IBC2012 and get $20 off plus free super saver shipping on any order over $400.00. You must spend in one order $400+, for this offer.

SCS Software offers the Professional Blu-ray disc authoring with the
DO-Studio INDIE authorware for $2,995.00

Comments

dibbkd wrote on 9/13/2012, 7:27 PM
I'm waiting to hear on the upgrade prices.
Chienworks wrote on 9/13/2012, 8:09 PM
"Sony Vegas Pro 12cs will be available in 2 editions:"

What is Vegas Pro 12cs??????
There's no mention of a "12cs" on Sony's site or fullcompass.com

I think you mean Vegas Pro 12.
PeterDuke wrote on 9/14/2012, 1:44 AM
"SCS Software offers the Professional Blu-ray disc authoring with the
DO-Studio INDIE authorware for $2,995.00"

"I'm waiting to hear on the upgrade prices"

I'm waiting for a crossgrade price to Do Studio that I could afford!
videoITguy wrote on 9/14/2012, 12:53 PM
The following is a cost analysis of what it might cost you to own VegasPro in successive generations. This is meant as an attempt to show how you might construct your personal analysis. The US dollar figures quoted are only meant to be an estimate- plug-in your own numbers.

Assume that upgrade prices follow the tier shown below:
Version Upgrade Price in US dollars
Vegas 12 Creative Suite announced September 2012 (IBC) estimated $200
Vegas 11 was released September 2011 (IBC) $190
Vegas 10 was released October 2010 (just after IBC) $180
Vegas 9 was released April 2009 (NAB) $160
Scenario 1:
If you bought all versions in this sequence and was successful in using each version and did not sell any version license; you have the following value:
Expense Total $730, at an average price of $182 per version over period of 4 years -with 100% satisfaction plus 10% bonus for being able to use all versions concurrently = 110% valuation.

Scenario 2:
If you bought all versions in this sequence and was successful except for using Version 11 with bugs, total of $730, at an average of
$242 per version for 3 successful installs.- with ONLY 75% satisfaction plus a bonus of 6% for being able to use only three versions concurrently = 81% satisfaction.

Scenaio 3:
If you bought all versions but had to drop using Versions 10 and 11 as being bug-ridden, total of $730, at an average of $ 365 per version of 2 successful installs - with only 50% satisfaction - not a lot of bonus because you have very little to choose from different features.

Possible Scenario 4:
If you bought all versions but 12 comes out as bug-ridden as Version 11 - you paid $730 for one useful version and get very little satisfaction from Sony.

Are YOU listening Sony?

Note that this scenario analysis does not cover the expense of moving platforms which is most likely if you move from a 32bit OS to a new required 64bit OS. Plug those numbers into your own calc.
[r]Evolution wrote on 9/14/2012, 3:54 PM
I just saw this thread.
Are you guys talking about the new Vegas Pro 12cs?
Chienworks wrote on 9/14/2012, 4:10 PM
No. No one is talking about Vegas Pro 12cs because there is no such thing.
[r]Evolution wrote on 9/16/2012, 6:51 PM
C'mon.
It sure sounds like you guys are talking about the new Vegas Pro 12cs.
videoITguy wrote on 9/16/2012, 6:58 PM
Yep that's true, no foolin ya here. Sony Creative Software release of Sony Vegas Pro Edit 12 Creative Suite and the Sony Vegas Pro Creative Suite Full Version (that includes Dolby and DVD Architect Pro).
PeterDuke wrote on 9/16/2012, 8:16 PM
Vegas bought by itself without DVDA would not be a suite, whether creative or not. A suite must contain at least two items (consult your dictionary). My lounge suite has three components. (My lounge suit has two!)
Chienworks wrote on 9/16/2012, 10:53 PM
Not sure where you folks are getting the phrase "Creative Suite", but you're sure not getting it from Sony.
Soniclight wrote on 9/17/2012, 4:41 PM
Sheezus times have changed.
I bought my first Vegas 6 at B&H (legit disk-only) for USD $99.
Then upgraded to v.8 and then someone gave me v.10
Now they want $200 for an upgrade to v.12.

Freakin' highway robbery.**
Not worth the upgrade for me due to that I'm a serious amateur.
I'll probably wait for version 27 or so - lol.

(**Yeah, yeah, I know... "Quit yer moaning, dude." I have not spent in-toto as much as I would if I could afford even if but one Adobe product ;)
videoITguy wrote on 9/17/2012, 5:33 PM
SonicLight et al.
The prices used above are merely examples to develop a model for the cost of ownership. This is theoretical for most part. They should not be taken literally as individual circumstances can vay with acquisition - as SonicLight points out his receiving a gift of Version 10.

HOWEVER, the point is well made that the total cost of ownership is driven up greatly over time...hence the interest in different forms of software ownership structure have been of great interest lately.

One could look at the above OP's example and wonder for the good of the cause how they might have gotten value if they had been in the Adobe Premiere line-up for some period of time. The answer is in brief you would have been out-of-pocket dollars in an even greater total amount. Cost of Adobe Premiere has always been far higher than SCS VegasPro - including the cost of version upgrades.
Chienworks wrote on 9/17/2012, 7:49 PM
Upgrade prices are still lower than they were back in the olden Sonic Foundry days. I can remember version upgrades being in the $300 to $350 range when i first got into the "pro" level applications. Lots of us older-timers were shocked into disbelief when we were offered $150 upgrades and were wondering what the catch was. $200 is in the lower end of the range.
PeterDuke wrote on 9/17/2012, 7:58 PM
Hardware wears out so it is normal to depreciate the cost over a period of a few years. Software becomes out of date as advances are made in the software world, and so should be treated similarly.

At work we had to stocktake hardware assets each year, and a label was attached to make this easy. Software was written off immediately and never stocktaken.

From a business model point of view, old software should be considered worthless. (But one man's trash can be another man's treasure!)
fldave wrote on 9/17/2012, 10:02 PM
Ha, still running Vegas 8 32 bit. Retiring my P4 this week currently running Win 7 64-bit. Asus board is finally creeping hopefully for the next couple of days until the i5 parts arrive. Been running for 6-7 years.

Yeah, it takes 2+ days to render sometimes, but it gets the job done!

Looking for 12.a for an upgrade path.
wwjd wrote on 9/18/2012, 10:17 AM
I bought Video Home Movie Studio Professional Suite 11 (or whatever the heck the long name is) for about $70. Pro 11 was around $600 at the time. About a month into using HOME STUDIO whatever, it popped a box offering PRO for like $99. What the heck why not. I got both for less than $200. I wonder what the future will bring?