Explain Rendering to 24p for the Canon HV20?

Nathan_Shane wrote on 6/7/2007, 10:29 PM
Okay, being a new HV20 owner, I keep reading in all the forums of the couple methods for capturing and removing the 24p frames from the 60i stream to produce a true 24p format.

Then I read an article by Spot about creating a film-like appearance in Vegas. So if Vegas has the ability to render to a true 24p format with using the insert 2:3 pulldown setting (I think it was this?), then wouldn't this be accomplishing the exact same thing? I'm sure I'm just not understanding something about this issue...or others would not be coming up with ways to extract the 24p.

If I understand Spot's article correctly, Vegas can render a 24p file by putting together the interlaced fields of a 60i format...so is this not as good as being able to extract those 24 individual full frames out of the stream?

Comments

johnmeyer wrote on 6/7/2007, 10:59 PM
This isn't exactly the same, but may still be helpful. It's an old Sony whitepaper:

24p and Panasonic AG-DVX100 and AJ-SDX900
blink3times wrote on 6/8/2007, 5:16 AM
Vegas can not remove the pull down because the Canon cam lacks the ability to "flag" the pull down to make Vegas aware that it is there. I use Cineform HD Link to capture (which WILL remove the pull down), then import to Vegas.
24Peter wrote on 6/11/2007, 8:55 AM
It should be noted the CineForm files are three times bigger than the actual HDV files and CineForm users are $250 poorer than non-CineForm users. Not necessarily a big deal but worth noting.
mjroddy wrote on 6/11/2007, 10:12 AM
As a Cineform user myself, it might also be worth noting that the resulting Cineform files are higher quality for composites and more versitle to use - for compositng and rendering.
So for me, the value is well worth it.
mjroddy wrote on 6/11/2007, 10:12 AM
As a Cineform user myself, it might also be worth noting that the resulting Cineform files are higher quality for composites and more versatile to use - for compositng and rendering.
So for me, as someone who makes a modest living with video, the value is well worth it.
(edited for spelling?)