Extreme Color Correction

RocShaman wrote on 3/24/2010, 5:22 AM
I have some old family footage originally shot on 8mm film back in the early '60's that was transferred to VHS tape several years ago. I'm attempting to correct the color in this footage as it is really out of whack and has proven to be a pretty tough job. I was wondering if any of you might have any tips or solutions on how to fix this old film as best that can be done. The yellows and purples are the main culprit colors and I'm having to do several edits to even get it close. I'm enclosing a couple of links to snapshots of the footage to give you an idea what I'm up against here.

http://www.darkhollowstudios.com/pics/colorcoll01.jpg

http://www.darkhollowstudios.com/pics/colorcoll02.jpg

Any advice you can offer would be appreciated...

Jim

Comments

RocShaman wrote on 3/24/2010, 5:34 AM
By the way, it seems you can no longer draw a square with the Select Effect Range eye dropper in the secondary color corrector tool in Vegas 9.0. I found that to be really helpful and was wondering why they removed it?
ushere wrote on 3/24/2010, 5:39 AM
not sure they've actually removed it, more like the same problem with the chroma key picker, you CAN drag a selection - it just doesn't show a bounding box.

this bugs been around a long time i think....
Jay Gladwell wrote on 3/24/2010, 6:04 AM

These are, as you pointed out, very old images. The problem is certain colored dies have totally faded away, the missing colors are no longer there to bring back (using the color wheels in Vegas).

If it were me, I wouldn't worry about it. They are what they are--old faded pictures.

Just one person's opinion.

P.S. How about showing what you've got so far?



farss wrote on 3/24/2010, 6:24 AM
I used to do 8mm transfers and I'd CC some of it, not that anyone would ever pay for serious work and I didn't have the gear to do it any way.

1) It's amazing what can still be found in old film like that. You need a real telecine though and that isn't cheap. What they do is get a huge amount of data from the film which gives the CC process more to work with plus you can control the light going into the film.
I doubt this film was transferred on serious gear and as it's now only on VHS there isn't that much to work with.

2) What I used to do was just make the whites white. Forget everything else but if the brides white dress was white it all looked ever so much better and that took only a few mouse clicks in Vegas. No bride, find a white shirt. The rest of the frame will still be out of whack but the eye will forgive it to some extent.

Bob.
jimingo wrote on 3/24/2010, 12:33 PM
Try AAV ColorLab. It's a free plug-in for Vegas and gives you control over adjusting individual colors of your footage. I love it.
http://aav6cc.blogspot.com/
musicvid10 wrote on 3/24/2010, 12:56 PM
Whites are blown. You will never restore color or detail. Best you can do is take some of the cast out of the whites and leave the rest alone, as Bob already suggested.
RocShaman wrote on 3/24/2010, 4:48 PM
Thanks for the input, I knew I'd never get this stuff perfect, but was hoping to get it a little closer to something people could watch. I've had some luck with pulling the saturation down and tweaking the color wheels, then adding color curves over the top to warm the colors back up a bit but it's nowhere near what it probably once was. I think I'll check out the Color Lab plug in, sounds interesting and making the whites white is a great idea I'll try out as well. Problem with this footage is that it changes dramatically from scene to scene, indoors or out makes a big difference. So several clips have to be edited separately. Some scenes actually look OK, just a bit over-saturated. Thanks again for the ideas guys.
RocShaman wrote on 3/24/2010, 5:22 PM
Hey jimingo, wow you're right, that plugin is fantastic. Thanks for the heads up on that.