Fading Within a Single Captured Video/Audio Event

jkb242 wrote on 7/4/2003, 11:39 AM
I am trying to find a method of fading the audio and video of a captured event together from the original captured avi file to avoid the abrubt ending which currently exist at the end on one scene. This capture event is a series of songs, all in one long event and I am trying to edit the event so that at the end of one song there is gradual fade to the end rather than an abrupt cut to black on the video and a cut to silence on the audio since it was not faded duirng the original recording. Again, this is one long even which I realize II am sure I can do this in Vegas 4 but cannot find any references to this. Can someone please assist?

Thank you...

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TorS wrote on 7/4/2003, 11:59 AM
Set the cursor at the exact point between two songs. Press S. Pull the corner of the left event to the left and you'll se a fade develop. You can pull as far as you like, and insert black/silence between the songs, if needed.
Tor
Chienworks wrote on 7/4/2003, 1:13 PM
You will have to fade both the audio and the video tracks separately.
jkb242 wrote on 7/4/2003, 1:33 PM
Much thanks but here is what happened. It appeared that I did develop the fade envelop but the video fade envelop started with blue trace above the fram and a white trace below then naturally the two traces intersected several frames later then the white envelop ended on top of the video and the blue ended up on the bottom well into the point in the video where there is no video or audio. Playing back the inserted fade shows no difference like the fade did not get inserted even though I see it. What am I doing incorrectly??

Much thanks for such a rapid reply!!
kameronj wrote on 7/4/2003, 1:38 PM
Here is yet another thought - if you have the resources.

1. Obtain a digital copy of the song(s) in question as a separate track.

2. Synch up the audio/video and fade the song out for each section/video event.

I did something like this when I shot some video in Vegas (Las Vegas...that is). I shot some of the water shows at the Bellagio. One of the shows was "One" from "A Chorus Line". Brought the video home, purchased the Audio CD for Chorus Line, Ripped the track from the CD and layed it on top of the video I shot.

In the end, the way I mixed the video/audio from the shoot and the soundtrack, you could still hear the mist of the water splashing around, but the song that was playing was CD quality. Turned out perfect.

It takes a little work...but I'm sure you can do it.
Chienworks wrote on 7/4/2003, 1:55 PM
jkb242: it looks like what you did after splitting was to drag the part after the split over top of the part before the split so that they overlap and you now have a crossfade. Pull the second part of the clip back to the right so that they're not overlapped anymore. Then take a look at this picture:

http://www.chienworks.com/media/dragfade.gif

This illustrates creating a fade at the end of a clip. It's shown as a fade in at the beginning of a clip, but if you flip everything left to right you should get the idea. Look for the little blue triangle in the upper right corner at the end of the first part of your event. When the mouse pointer touches it it should change into the quarter-circle icon. Click and drag to the left to create the fade.
jeffcrow wrote on 7/4/2003, 2:00 PM
jkb242,

Sounds like you already have black and silence at the end of the video, but you want to fade it to the black, am I right? Don't know why you could not see the playback of the fade you created, try clicking in the video at the point where the white and blue line intersect, you should see in the preview window an image that is 50/50 of the 2 images. I tried different preview settings and could not get anything to make the transition not show like you are describing.

Another technique to fade the video if you alread have black and silence after it:
Put the cursor between the last frame of video and the first of back and press S to split. Place the mouse pointer of the upper right corner of the video event (the new ending created by the split) where there is a tiny blue triangle until you see the cursor change to a triangle with one side rounded, this is the fade cursor. Drag this to the left to create a fade down on that event only. Right click the fade and select "fade type" to see other fade velocity waveforms. Do the same on the audio track and you should now have a fade out to the existing black.

Is that what you were after?
jkb242 wrote on 7/4/2003, 2:59 PM
I am really impressed with the dedication of the individuals in this group who do such a wonder jobe atempting to answer questions for others. Great job folks!!

I never did see the blue triangles although I have seen them in previous fades so I know what you are talking aobut. I accomplished this by creating the fade envolope then dragging more black frames to the left even more until I got the right effect. Just do not know why I could not see the blue triangles??

Again, thanks to all!!
jkb242 wrote on 7/4/2003, 3:01 PM
Very clever and creative indeed. Thank you a bunch for this tip!! I would like to try that.

jkb242 wrote on 7/4/2003, 3:15 PM
This was exactly what I was trying to do. In the final step, n ow that I have the songs separated with the fade in place, I need to save the songs separately as one complete clip or file that will appear in the media pool. The remainder of the video that begins our of black, will be another such clip to be save separately. May I impose one more time with some assistance on how to do this?

Much thanks!!