Not everyone has the resources, (me included) to keep saving all data on some other medium for the "just in case" scenerio.

With that said, to me, it seems such a feature like "OpenDVD" would be great.

I guess it would be kind of cool, only if it comes after "end of play options".

"end actions" are an absolute necessity. An "OpenDVD" type feature would be an asset.

End Actions while they would be a nice addition and one that probably will be included in the next version they are by no means "an absolute necessity".

People that need features that DVD-A doesn't support should use software that does. What a shocking idea.

What is it with you BillyBoy? While it's true that "end actions" may not be "an absolute necessity" in ALL cases, they certainly are in SOME, which is probably why so many complain about DVDA not having them.

I just don't get it, are you TRYNG to find something to complain about or pick on?

Sheesh!!!

"I just don't get it, are you TRYNG to find something to complain about or pick on?"

I'm going to agree with BillyBoy on this one. Regardless of wheter we are talking about end-action items or openDVD items - if DVDA doesn't have the features someone needs...don't use it.

I didn't read anywhere where he was picking a fight - just stating a fact.

I stated my fact that the 'opendvd' feature would be a waste. Still think it would be a waste. Am I picking a fight? Nope....just stating a fact.

I too feel that if the application doesn't give someone what they want - there are tons of other applications a person can use instead of whining about x-y-or z not being in DVDA.

No one is stopping anyone from using soething other than DVDA. It's that simple.

Sheeesh!!

http://mediasoftware.sonypictures.com/support/productsuggestion.asp

Above is the link for the product suggestion page.

I agree extra features are always appreciated, but not if it means the software will end up being out of my price range. Every feature costs more. Sony has to decide what they figure is essential, and what isn't for their target price. If we feel they don't offer enough bang for the buck, we move on. I believe that's all BillyBoy was stating.

If you think that feature would be a great addition, I'd suggest you send it to Sony via the product suggestion page.

M

I generally use DVDA unless I need end actions, then I use DVD Workshop. It would be nice if I could just do it in DVDA. So, yes I would like to see end actions in DVDA. Yes, I expect that Sony Sofo will add this feature to new version. Happy thanksgiving to yuo all. Wobblyboy

BB and Kameronj

Are you saying you have never requested or wanted an additional feature included in software you enjoy using?

This I doubt.

What I find curious is some here think everytime time they offer an idea its the greatest thing since sliced bread. If some of us disagree and say why, we're seen as 'picking a fight' or other such nonsense. Forums are good because we don't always share the same opinions. If we all did, then there wouldn't be much point in having a forum to begin with.

There's nothing "with" me or Kameronj or others that speak out. We simply happen to be able to express our views BETTER than some others and that appears to bug a few people. Just conjure up a mental image of me laughing at some of the outrageous things I see said about me and others, because that's what I'm doing.

You're seeing the same kind of responses you did in the 'Is DVD-A dead?' thread from the same people. Interesting that is Kameronj, myself and others providing the lion's share of answers while our critics only seem to have time to complain about us. Now watch one of them complain about what I just said. Sometimes the truth hurts.

ROTFLMAO!

I think there's probably a middle ground here somewhere? On the one hand, I can agree that asking for a feature over and over is probably not doing much but annoying some--but I've seen the request before, and just ignore it and move on. If one thinks that posting such requests are inane, then consistently being taunted into responding back isn't much better.

I hope Sony's staff does troll the forums, even if they don't respond much. I think asking for some basic features aren’t out of line, even if there really isn't going to be a direct response. Every now and then some good can come about from it. For example, Procoder from Canopus is one of the best software encoders out there. Unfortunately the initial release left out what many thought was an important file type output. It was from posts on the forum that Canopus got wind of the feature request, and in less than a month a 1.x release added the feature.

End actions aren't some elaborate dvd spec feature that only top level authoring apps offer, it’s an option in essentially every authoring app that DVD-A competes with. Asking for this feature by an individual isn't out of line. I know some can be annoyed that the poster didn't "search" the forum for the answer, but unless they use the exact phraseology, they might not get the answer they were looking for (many would use 'next command' and not end actions). Even if they were 'too lazy' to look, no one is making anyone respond to repeat questions/requests. Saying that one's comments are 'better', or their opinions are 'facts'; just serve the purpose of prolonging the argument. I don't know if it was this thread or the other, but somewhere along the way I think a reference to kids in the back seat asking 'are we there yet' was made. These two threads remind me of when my kids start yelling at each other--"he's looking at me", "no, she's looking at me", "am not, he's looking at me", and on, and on, and on, ...

I personally wish these back and forth barbs would go away--I waste too much time looking at the next volley. :)
I guess I'm like a moth to a flame--just can't help myself.

Jim

The whole thing that gets me is there's nothing I said that any reasonable person would get all hot and botherd about. Yet many times when I simply express my opinion on a topic I'm accused of picking a fight.

The nature of any forum is some topics come up over and over. Here, the constant asking about end actions and when or if a new version of DVD Architect is coming out are two prime examples.

As with most forums there are many people that visit on an irregular basis and maybe see a question being asked for the first time. And of course people new to the forum. Such people may wonder why some questons get the response they do. People that follow the forum on a regular basis know the questions I cited have come up HUNDREDS of times. They've been answered hundreds of times. So sure, it gets annoying to regulars to keep seeing it asked.

Now consider what I'm critiqued for. Some didn't like me saying I don't think end actions are a absolute must. In the other thread I simply parroted the "official" Sony line as to why they don't give advance notice on their future plans as to what future version of DVD-A will have.

For simply stating my OPINION I'm labeled as looking for a fight. Now how silly is that? One could infer the people that constantly complain about what features are missing are the actual ones looking to stir things up. I try to help people use DVD-A as is. After all, we got what we got till something better comes along.