File size too big for rendered MOV files?

gmarshall wrote on 7/27/2009, 3:28 PM
Just switched over to Vegas 9 and notiiced that the file sizes for rendered Quicktime.MOV files is way bigger than needed.

My standard project is a 28:30 TV show, saved for web viewing at 256 Kbps as WMV and MOV. The files have always come out around 50-55 MB., but with Vegas 9, the MOV is coming out at 200MB for a 256 Kbps show. Worse yet, when I cranked the bit rate down to 100 Kbps as a test, the file size shot up to 500MB.
(The WMV file is about the size I expected).

Any idea what's going on here? Is there an option somewhere besides the Render As screen? When I click Custom, it has Sorenson Video 3 selected. Is there a better choice?



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craftech wrote on 7/28/2009, 5:17 AM
I gave up on Vegas for creating good Quicktime videos and bought Sorenson Squeeze for that purpose. Sorenson 3 should give you decent results and small file sizes. Vegas gives you neither in my experience. Sony (SF) never cared much about Quicktime video and consequently a lot of Vegas users don't bother with nor know much about it. That's why there are few responses on this forum to any Quicktime questions. And also there are others here like myself that bought other software for that purpose.

With Sorenson Squeeze I can use the SVQ3 codec at approximately 256 kb/s at 320x238 with a frame rate of 29.97 for the video and mpga (mp3) 2-channel audio with a 16 bit sample rate of 16000 HZ at a bitrate of 512 kb/s for a 2:34 minute video and end up with very decent looking video with a file size of 5011KB. Try it with Vegas, but I doubt it will work.

John
PerroneFord wrote on 7/28/2009, 7:44 AM
This is truly unfortunate because there are a great many excellent codecs that can exist inside a .mov container.

The problem for the original poster is that .wmv is both a container and a codec. It's closes quicktime equivalent is an mpeg4 part 10 aka h.264. That file type is an mp4 not an mov.

Though Vegas doesn't handle .mov files well on the timeline, the codecs offered tend to generally be superior to the ones available in the .avi container with a few notable exceptions like Cineform, Lagarith, and a couple others.
gmarshall wrote on 8/4/2009, 12:17 AM
Thanks. I used a custom render with MPEG4, and it came out pretty reasonable.
musicvid10 wrote on 8/4/2009, 4:36 AM
It's closes quicktime equivalent is an mpeg4 part 10 aka h.264. That file type is an mp4 not an mov.

You can rename an h.264 encoded .mp4 to .mov
There is no substantial difference.