FILL LIGHT plugin? The best?

wwjd wrote on 1/26/2014, 7:33 PM
help me remember.... there was something I slid somewhere that only brought up the darks... it left ALL the highs as they were and didn't just make them bright too, like BRIGHT seems to do. Might have been GAMMA or GAIN in COLOR CORRECTOR... sometimes I will use FILL LIGHT to bring up the low end... is there something better?

I don't recall FILL LIGHT being the slider that brought up the low - seems like it did more overall than JUST the low.

Then again, maybe my crack habit is back, and that was a dream.. maybe all this is still a dream..... ooOOOOooo, spooky.....

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farss wrote on 1/26/2014, 8:26 PM
Colour Curves will do this and just about everything else as well.

Bob.
corug7 wrote on 1/26/2014, 10:33 PM
Uhh, the one you plug in to the wall BEFORE you start shooting.

Sorry, I had to.

-C
wwjd wrote on 1/26/2014, 10:42 PM
... it's not a perfect world, ya know. :)
malowz wrote on 1/27/2014, 3:49 AM
i use photoshop shadow/highlight.. photoshop had the best "shadow retrieval" results in my test (versus plugins for vegas)
wwjd wrote on 1/27/2014, 9:16 AM
:( me no PS. gotta use what I gots
PeterDuke wrote on 1/27/2014, 6:21 PM
You must be thinking of the Sony plugin called guess what? Sony Fill Light. It first appeared after about V10 of Vegas I think (bought from I forget where).

I prefer New Blue Video Essentials 2 "Shadows and Highlights" which is marginally better. If I want a better job then I pass the clip through Adobe After Effects or Premiere Pro (or even Premiere Elements if you have it).

For RAW stills I generally use the controls in Adobe Camera RAW with Photoshop. For best results with stills I use LightMachine from PhotoWiz from The Plugin Site. It identifies shadow regions with controllable feathering and you can control the brightness, colour saturation and contrast in that region. Ditto for highlights as well.
wwjd wrote on 1/27/2014, 10:24 PM
yes, FILL I did mention. It does that, but I ran across another way accidentally. Just did some testing.... it was GAIN in color correction: seemed to act like FILL does, yet better in some ways. Goal: brighten, sharpen shadowed bark.
here's a pic from video, strait into the sun to push range of my Canon T3i.
then the same pic adjusted with GAIN and fill and a bunch of other stuff.





Byron K wrote on 1/28/2014, 12:23 AM
Maybe New Blue's Colorfast? It can select specific color range to brighten or dim.
Grazie wrote on 1/28/2014, 12:44 AM
wwjd? Re: ByronK, I've got NB CF and would happily do a test with it. Where's the original footage/jpg/png?

Cheers

Grazie


PeterDuke wrote on 1/28/2014, 5:52 AM
What effect are you trying to achieve?

The "before" image already shows more detail in the backlit tree bark than I would expect if I were looking at it in real life. Backlit SHOULD look dark unless the point of interest is in the dark. I found the image looked much better to me with DARKER backlighting, which I achieved by increased contrast, and with brightness adjusted so that the burnout of the highlights was unchanged.

I would lift shadows if the face of the subject is backlit, or the facade of a building is partially or wholly backlit. Backlit dense trees look more interesting if brightened to the point where the edges are green or the trees appear to have depth. If there is nothing of interest in the shadows, leave them dark. Images with no shadows tend to look flat and bland.
amendegw wrote on 1/28/2014, 8:37 AM
[I]"i use photoshop shadow/highlight.. photoshop had the best "shadow retrieval" results in my test (versus plugins for vegas)"[/I]I love this tool for recovering detail on stills. However, I must admit I haven't used Photoshop for video. What's your workflow here? A test just revealed that AVCHD clips import nicely and the Highlights/Shadows works as expected. Do you then render these from Photoshop & Import to Vegas? What render format?

TIA,
...Jerry

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wwjd wrote on 1/28/2014, 10:23 AM
my test video frame already had the lows lifted by CINESTYLE profile already... so, not a very good example. Usually pointing into sunlight WOULD darked the trees bigtime.
But standing there as a human with 24+ range of visual stops I can see the blinding sun AND the detail in the bark. So, the attempt is to squish that range into the viewable area while recording it on my crappy 10 stop Canon T3i camera. CINESTYLE usually achieves that, so this example is not the best.
And movies are never "real" looking so I am not worried about looking real, but showing what I want to show as DP and Director.

CC GAIN is what I was remembering I forgot that pulled the lows up
malowz wrote on 1/28/2014, 10:24 AM
open video on PS "normally", as if it was a image

convert layer to smart object
use shadow/highlight filter
add adjustment layers for other filters if wanted

export using option "render video"

can use image sequence or export with quicktime. i use Media Encoder to create template and export in Canopus HQ directly

then open in vegas...