For those interested in Blu ray burning...

blink3times wrote on 9/15/2007, 9:30 AM

Pinnacle studio 11 Ultimate can now burn a AVCHD blu ray disk in BDMV format to dvd-r... complete with DD5.1 sound.

(Although I should add that I don't have a clue how good it works.)

Comments

Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/15/2007, 11:03 AM

And the same does Vegas 8. All what you have to do is to generate an iso by tools/burn disc/blu ray disk, by choosing Sony AVC/Blu-ray 1440x1080/Dolby Digital AC3 Pro/5.1 surround (5.1 is available, if it is a 5.1 project).

If the image generated issmaller then 4.3 GB, you can burn that to a DVD-R, by using any burning tool (like Nero).

And I know, that the quality is really fine here.

You find in the knowledge data base:
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Question
Vegas Pro 8 software can burn Blu-ray discs. What are the details related to that feature?

Answer
Vegas Pro 8.0 burns Blu-ray BDMV format to BD-R and BD-RE recordable media.

For the video, you can use MPEG-2 or AVC encoding.

The MPEG-2 video templates have an average bitrate of 25Mbps.
The AVC video templates have an average bitrate of 15Mbps.

For the audio, we use Dolby Digital 2.0 or 5.1 (AC-3) encoding at 192Kbps or 448 Kbps respectively.

On a 25G single-layer BD recordable disc this gives you approximately 3h42m for AVC or 2h15m for MPEG-2.

You can create your own templates if you need to adjust the bitrates.

Also, you can use standard definition MPEG-2 formats for very large amounts of video on a Blu-ray disc.

Vegas Pro 8.0 does not currently have the ability to burn BDMV to DVD recordable media.

We have specifically tested on the following burners*:

- Pioneer 101 A
- Plextor PX-B900A
- Sony BWU-100A
- Lite-On LH-2B1S
- Philips SPD7000BD
- Matsushita BD-MLT SW-5582 (within a VAIO VGC-RC310G desktop)
- Matsushita BD-MLT UJ-220S (within a VAIO VGN-FZ190 laptop)

We have specifically tested on the following players*:

- Sony PS3
- Sony BDP-S1

- Samsung BD-P1000
- Samsung BD-P1200

*Other burners and players on the market today may work as well.
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Laurence wrote on 9/15/2007, 3:16 PM

Unfortunately, BDMV burned onto a regular DVD-R does not play correctly in a Playstation 3. It shows up as a data disc. From there you can go into the "streams" folder and play back the movie. but it is not a nice enough presentation this way to be something that I would give to a client.

What I would really like is some sort of option that would allow you to burn an AVCHD format disc as well.

4eyes wrote on 9/15/2007, 8:54 PM

Pinnacle studio 11 Ultimate can now burn a AVCHD blu ray disk in BDMV format to dvd-r... complete with DD5.1 sound.A Blu-Ray BDMV Disk has more directories than a avchd disk does.

You don't need a Blu-Ray player to play these on the computer as a avchd disk.
Powerdvd 7 ultra/deluxe or Nero7 Showtime can play them, you will need a fast machine.

Wolfgang S. wrote on 9/16/2007, 10:21 AM

@ Laurence,

I have not been able to test that with the PS3 - but I tested such an AVCHD-DVD with the

Panasonic DMP-B10 EGS: worked fine
Pioneer BDP-LX70: worked fine
Samsung BDP 1000: did not run

So, there are at least some Blu Ray players where that works out.

In the mid-run, we will substitute that by Blu Ray writters, I am sure. But at the moment, BD-R seems to show a lower compatibility then such AVCHD-DVDs - at least up to our (very limited) experience up to now.

Laurence wrote on 9/16/2007, 10:38 AM

Well the two most popular Blu-ray players are the BDP-S300 and the Playstation 3. Both these players have problems with BDMV burned on DVD-R but will play AVCHD on DVD-R just fine.

Also, I just updated my PS3 operating system the other day and one of the new features is that it will now play properly formatted HD video in an AVCHD directory off of any drive. In other words, it will play it directly from a hard disc AVCHD camcorder, a memory chip inserted into one of the slots, high capacity thumb drive, an external hard drive, etc.

For now at least, the AVCHD format seems to be to Bluray what the 3x DVD format is to HD DVD: a practical way to write and playback HD video on inexpensive media.

I would really love to see "Burn an AVCHD disc" as one of the options from the tools menu. Maybe it could take the place of the VCD burning option (which it kid of is the HD equivalent of )!