Forum discussion freedom... check it out

DJPadre wrote on 9/12/2007, 12:58 AM
And those that thought freedom of speech was a reality........

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22405674-2,00.html


Case could smother web chat, says Whirlpool founderBy Mark Schliebs
September 12, 2007 04:03pm

Founder of Whirpool forum being sued by 2Clix
Stoush over "malicious" comments on products
Software company wants $150,000 in damages

THE founder of one of the nation’s most popular online discussion forums says a lawsuit brought by a software company threatens freedom of speech on the net.

Whirlpool forums founder Simon Wright, who is being sued by accounting software maker 2Clix Australia for publishing comments the company alleges are “false and malicious”, says the legal action affects all online discussion and even film reviews.

“A lot hangs in the balance here,” Mr Wright told NEWS.com.au.

“This goes beyond Whirlpool, or indeed communities in general.

“It affects the viability of all internet discussion, from blogs to product reviews on Amazon.

“What’s to stop movie distributors from threatening anyone who publishes a negative review of the latest film?”

Mr Wright said that the support from users has been “incredibly heartwarming” and demonstrates how much they appreciate participating in forums that facilitate “fair and reasonable” criticism.

He said that Whirlpool uses a range of measures to identify potentially problematic comments and there is a set of rules in place to regulate posts.

“Whirlpool's forum operates on the basis that users post their comments without prior approval.

“We treat all complaints about posts seriously.”

Members of the Whirlpool forum have also been donating money to help pay the legal costs for Mr Wright, who set up the website to help internet users discuss problems with broadband services.

Legal case

2Clix Australia is suing Mr Wright for damages after two forum discussions about its products on the Whirlpool site.

According to a statement on the site, purportedly from 2Clix, the action was based on comments criticising its software and postings encouraging other Whirlpool members to avoid purchasing their products.

2Clix spokesman David Morgan said that he would not confirm that the “Statement of Claim” on the website was an exact copy of the court documents.

“There is a legal process underway (and) on our legal advice, we will be making no comment,” Mr Morgan said.

According to the document, 2Clix “quantifies its loss in income between January 2007 to July 2007 at approximately $150,000 per month”.

The document also said 2Clix would be seeking $150,000 in damages for the alleged “injurious falsehood”, the permanent removal of two forum threads discussing its software and legal costs to be paid by Mr Wright.

Whirlpool said it would be fighting the allegations in court.

“Whirlpool believes the action has no merit and will defend the matter vigorously, despite being a community website with little resources,” the company said.

The forum threads in question still appear online.

Users show their support

Since news of the court action was posted on the website last night, more than 1200 comments have been posted in support of Mr Wright – and many users have actually donated money to help with legal costs.

“(I've) donated $1254 via PayPal… $1 for each post I've made on (Whirlpool),” one user said.

“WP is the best forum of its type in the world and it would be a very sad day if that were put in jeopardy… I urge you to donate as much as you can.”

Another user who looked at every cash pledge made on the site calculated that at 10.30am (AEST) today, supporters had donated at least $3097.94 for legal costs.

“Amazing when you consider that these were only the amounts posted, not including those who didn’t post the amount, those who had posts deleted, and those yet to read and donate,” the user said.

Comments

DataMeister wrote on 9/12/2007, 1:35 AM
Gracious. I thought our threads were big with 200+ posts. Those top thread over on Whirlpool Forums about "2Clix sues..." are nearing 3,000 posts.


farss wrote on 9/12/2007, 2:07 AM
Wow,
reading where that's heading is amazing. Now the legal hounds are eliciting people to signup for a class action against 2Clix.
DJPadre wrote on 9/12/2007, 2:29 AM
check out a forum i moderate

www.austech.info

if you want to see post counts, then ours taks the cake

its difficult to be in the position of forum owner/moderator as despite not having teh ability to monitor EVERYTHING, you also have the responsibility of giving people the freedom to express themselves. On the flipside, that freedom also allows for a questionable stance on defamation and slanderous content, which , despite it not being the ownership or responsibility of the forum owner, puts them in the position of publishing, in turn forcing the responsibility onto us.

The reason i posted this report was that despite all the forums i go to, this one (SOny Vegas) is probably one of the more heplful ones. In addition, our freedom to express ourselves is open and without bias.

I recall a post DSE put up about people coming into someones home and pissing on the carpet.
We are VERY lucky to have a forum which is so open, the Avid and pinnacle forums, as well as pretty much any other video related forum out there doesnt give us this type of freedom. One forum in particular didnt like the idea of me corrected a moderators incorrect information, and i was almsot banned.
Considering these types of mentalities, i reiterate to you all now, that we are lucky we have an outlet be it for suport or general whiteboard brainstorming..
We should be greatful we have a forum where we can congregate, but we should also be aware of our content and how we present ourselves while we are here....