Frameserver Limitation?

Blackout wrote on 5/18/2003, 5:19 PM

Hi ppl,

im trying to frameserve using Satish's amazing frameserver, to CCE. I want to make a SVCD, so i need Vegas to do the conversion from 720 DV to 480 SVCD for CCE, like i can if i used Virtualdub instead. In normal situations when making a SVCD avi, i just change the output framesize in "Custom" when rendering. But for the PluginPak Frameserver, there aint no "Custom"...its greyed out.

Is the satish frameserver only for DV resolutions then?

Many thanks,
Blackout

Comments

Josh15 wrote on 5/18/2003, 10:14 PM

All external encoders (except CCE) can resize the frame size before they encode, so they work directly with the frameserver. In the case of CCE, you need another simple step: Use AVISynth (or virtualDub) to resize and frameserve again to CCE. CCE will accept an AVISynth script, as well as an AVI file. A Typical AVISynth script would look like this:

AVISource("c:\video\MyFile.avi")
BicubicResize(480, 576)
# the following line may or may not be needed
ResampleAudio(44100)

TheHappyFriar wrote on 5/18/2003, 10:49 PM

change your project size to 480x480. The frameserver plugin outputs whatever the project size is.

DDogg wrote on 5/18/2003, 11:01 PM

Yes, as The HappyFriar said, but also remember to un-check "Maintain aspect ratio" in the actual video properties by right clicking on your video in the time-line and selecting properties. If you do not do this the video will not resize correctly for SVCD. The project size he mentioned is under properties in the file menu. You must do both of these things before FS'ing to CCE.

To return to a favorite theme, give Canopus ProCorder a try. I think they have a demo. It will resize for you and IMO, do a much better job on interlaced DV than anything else I have found. The internal MainConcept encoder is also very good and may give you better results than CCE on INTERLACED material.

satish wrote on 5/18/2003, 11:26 PM

The frameserver serves the project as it is, so just need to change the project resolution before exporting (need not even save it).

Blackout wrote on 5/19/2003, 12:44 AM

hi,

thanks for the info, i tried just changing the project settings but it reverts back to the DV filesize ..ie the video size in the timeline overrides the project's properties settings. Youre right HappyFriar, you have to also change those settings on the ACTUAL video in the timeline too, for it to work.

In reality instead what i have done is to frameserve from vegas to virtualdub to resize and frameserved on further to CCE all at once. i was sure my system was gonna hang after such a backflip manouvre but it worked smoothly and perfectly!!

I must say as a side-point that Virtualdub does an incredible job re-sizing...it took 20 mins to do the video via this process running Vegas, Virtualdub and CCE all at once in the process to a SVCD size mpeg2, i tried resizing in Vegas alone and saving using the Vegas Mainconcept built in mpeg2 convertor, = over 2 hours!!! Really poor effort that. The vegas resize algorithm is unbeliebably slow...its encoder speed just drags the boat-ancor further.

Thanks again ppl,
Blackout

SonyDennis wrote on 5/20/2003, 9:53 AM

Satish's frameserver uses the project settings, just like a "Default (uncompressed)" AVI render would. You'll also want to change your pixel aspect ratio when you change the project resolution (to 480 x 480), so that you still have 4:3 frame aspect. Something like 1.3636 should be close.
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