Full AVI file won't open

CDM wrote on 11/2/2000, 12:53 PM

Vegas will definitely open files that large but you do have a 4gig
limitation in win98se... So, if you go larger than that (about 16
minutes of NTSV DV), you'll run into problems. I don't know why
you're having this particular problem, though, as the file size
sounds right. Probably a codec problem.

Dave?

Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>Finally got my system up and running:
>>P III, 733 mhz, 192 mb RAM, 30gb ide system drive, 18gb SCSI
>>storage drive...
>>Captured 20 minutes of video fine with my ATI All In Wonder
>>and Videowave software.
>>My problem is that when i open the AVI file in Vegas (or
>>Soundforge) it only displays 6 and a half minutes of video
>>and audio but the timeline is numbered up to the full 20
>>minutes. The AVI file plays fine in the Windows Media player
>>. Here are my AVI file's specs: ATI YVU9 format codec, 2707
>>kb/sec data rate, 29.99 fps, 3 1/2 gb file size.
>>Being new to video, i can see it is probably a compression
>>problem, maybe Vegas doesn't open files this big. Does
>>anybody have a possible fix?
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Brad
>>

SonyEPM wrote on 11/2/2000, 3:17 PM

.Avi files created using the ATI codec are not OpenDML compliant, so
you have in fact hit the file size limit. You shouldn't be able to
see the end of the file in MediaPlayer either.

As a solution, you might consider getting a Sony analog-to-DV
converter box and any OHCI compliant 1394 card. This would allow you
to continue to use your current camera/deck, but you would be able to
get around the file size limit. Image quality would be better too.

Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>Vegas will definitely open files that large but you do have a 4gig
>>limitation in win98se... So, if you go larger than that (about 16
>>minutes of NTSV DV), you'll run into problems. I don't know why
>>you're having this particular problem, though, as the file size
>>sounds right. Probably a codec problem.
>>
>>Dave?
>>
>>Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>>>Finally got my system up and running:
>>>>P III, 733 mhz, 192 mb RAM, 30gb ide system drive, 18gb SCSI
>>>>storage drive...
>>>>Captured 20 minutes of video fine with my ATI All In Wonder
>>>>and Videowave software.
>>>>My problem is that when i open the AVI file in Vegas (or
>>>>Soundforge) it only displays 6 and a half minutes of video
>>>>and audio but the timeline is numbered up to the full 20
>>>>minutes. The AVI file plays fine in the Windows Media player
>>>>. Here are my AVI file's specs: ATI YVU9 format codec, 2707
>>>>kb/sec data rate, 29.99 fps, 3 1/2 gb file size.
>>>>Being new to video, i can see it is probably a compression
>>>>problem, maybe Vegas doesn't open files this big. Does
>>>>anybody have a possible fix?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>Brad
>>>>

bketchen wrote on 11/3/2000, 9:56 AM

Thanks Charles and Dave.

Dave, the Windows Media Player does play the entire length of the
video. Does this mean it could be something else before i go and buy
an A/D box? I know you're not accustomed to recommending specific
products but i'm kind of in the dark of what kind of converter i
should get. Also, you mentioned an OHCI compliant 1394 card, is my
current ATI not suitable or can i use that with the converter.

Thanks again,

Brad

Dave Hill wrote:
>>.Avi files created using the ATI codec are not OpenDML compliant, so
>>you have in fact hit the file size limit. You shouldn't be able to
>>see the end of the file in MediaPlayer either.
>>
>>As a solution, you might consider getting a Sony analog-to-DV
>>converter box and any OHCI compliant 1394 card. This would allow you
>>to continue to use your current camera/deck, but you would be able
to
>>get around the file size limit. Image quality would be better too.
>>
>>Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>>>Vegas will definitely open files that large but you do have a 4gig
>>>>limitation in win98se... So, if you go larger than that (about 16
>>>>minutes of NTSV DV), you'll run into problems. I don't know why
>>>>you're having this particular problem, though, as the file size
>>>>sounds right. Probably a codec problem.
>>>>
>>>>Dave?
>>>>
>>>>Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>>>>>Finally got my system up and running:
>>>>>>P III, 733 mhz, 192 mb RAM, 30gb ide system drive, 18gb SCSI
>>>>>>storage drive...
>>>>>>Captured 20 minutes of video fine with my ATI All In Wonder
>>>>>>and Videowave software.
>>>>>>My problem is that when i open the AVI file in Vegas (or
>>>>>>Soundforge) it only displays 6 and a half minutes of video
>>>>>>and audio but the timeline is numbered up to the full 20
>>>>>>minutes. The AVI file plays fine in the Windows Media player
>>>>>>. Here are my AVI file's specs: ATI YVU9 format codec, 2707
>>>>>>kb/sec data rate, 29.99 fps, 3 1/2 gb file size.
>>>>>>Being new to video, i can see it is probably a compression
>>>>>>problem, maybe Vegas doesn't open files this big. Does
>>>>>>anybody have a possible fix?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>>

SonyEPM wrote on 11/3/2000, 2:52 PM

To clarify- the problem is the ATI All-in-Wonder's codec. You are
hitting the file size limit because of that codec.

Capturing DV from an analog camera or deck is easily achieved by
using an analog-to-DV converter box (most DV cameras will do a/d
conversion too). You'll need a converter box (or camera), and any
OHCI card. You can output back to your analog device with this same
setup.

If you buy the DV converter box and OHCI card, the ATI All-in-Wonder
card no longer needs to be (and shouldn't be) part of the chain.

Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>Thanks Charles and Dave.
>>
>>Dave, the Windows Media Player does play the entire length of the
>>video. Does this mean it could be something else before i go and
buy
>>an A/D box? I know you're not accustomed to recommending specific
>>products but i'm kind of in the dark of what kind of converter i
>>should get. Also, you mentioned an OHCI compliant 1394 card, is my
>>current ATI not suitable or can i use that with the converter.
>>
>>Thanks again,
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>.Avi files created using the ATI codec are not OpenDML compliant,
so
>>>>you have in fact hit the file size limit. You shouldn't be able
to
>>>>see the end of the file in MediaPlayer either.
>>>>
>>>>As a solution, you might consider getting a Sony analog-to-DV
>>>>converter box and any OHCI compliant 1394 card. This would allow
you
>>>>to continue to use your current camera/deck, but you would be
able
>>to
>>>>get around the file size limit. Image quality would be better too.
>>>>
>>>>Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>>>>>Vegas will definitely open files that large but you do have a
4gig
>>>>>>limitation in win98se... So, if you go larger than that (about
16
>>>>>>minutes of NTSV DV), you'll run into problems. I don't know why
>>>>>>you're having this particular problem, though, as the file size
>>>>>>sounds right. Probably a codec problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>>>>>>>Finally got my system up and running:
>>>>>>>>P III, 733 mhz, 192 mb RAM, 30gb ide system drive, 18gb SCSI
>>>>>>>>storage drive...
>>>>>>>>Captured 20 minutes of video fine with my ATI All In Wonder
>>>>>>>>and Videowave software.
>>>>>>>>My problem is that when i open the AVI file in Vegas (or
>>>>>>>>Soundforge) it only displays 6 and a half minutes of video
>>>>>>>>and audio but the timeline is numbered up to the full 20
>>>>>>>>minutes. The AVI file plays fine in the Windows Media player
>>>>>>>>. Here are my AVI file's specs: ATI YVU9 format codec, 2707
>>>>>>>>kb/sec data rate, 29.99 fps, 3 1/2 gb file size.
>>>>>>>>Being new to video, i can see it is probably a compression
>>>>>>>>problem, maybe Vegas doesn't open files this big. Does
>>>>>>>>anybody have a possible fix?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>>>>

bketchen wrote on 11/8/2000, 9:27 AM

Is a Pinnacle DV card suitable for my purposes? Anytime i need A-D
conversion i can borrow my friend's Digital camera. I'm looking at a
tight budget due to spending $300 (Canadian) on an ATI card which
has proved useless.
Does anybody see a problem with this set up? I'm running 20 minutes of
video captured from a VCR.

Thanks.

Dave Hill wrote:
>>To clarify- the problem is the ATI All-in-Wonder's codec. You are
>>hitting the file size limit because of that codec.
>>
>>Capturing DV from an analog camera or deck is easily achieved by
>>using an analog-to-DV converter box (most DV cameras will do a/d
>>conversion too). You'll need a converter box (or camera), and any
>>OHCI card. You can output back to your analog device with this same
>>setup.
>>
>>If you buy the DV converter box and OHCI card, the ATI All-in-Wonder
>>card no longer needs to be (and shouldn't be) part of the chain.
>>
>>
>>
>>Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>>>Thanks Charles and Dave.
>>>>
>>>>Dave, the Windows Media Player does play the entire length of the
>>>>video. Does this mean it could be something else before i go and
>>buy
>>>>an A/D box? I know you're not accustomed to recommending specific
>>>>products but i'm kind of in the dark of what kind of converter i
>>>>should get. Also, you mentioned an OHCI compliant 1394 card, is my
>>>>current ATI not suitable or can i use that with the converter.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>
>>>>Brad
>>>>
>>>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>>>.Avi files created using the ATI codec are not OpenDML
compliant,
>>so
>>>>>>you have in fact hit the file size limit. You shouldn't be able
>>to
>>>>>>see the end of the file in MediaPlayer either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As a solution, you might consider getting a Sony analog-to-DV
>>>>>>converter box and any OHCI compliant 1394 card. This would allow
>>you
>>>>>>to continue to use your current camera/deck, but you would be
>>able
>>>>to
>>>>>>get around the file size limit. Image quality would be better
too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>>>>>>>Vegas will definitely open files that large but you do have a
>>4gig
>>>>>>>>limitation in win98se... So, if you go larger than that (about
>>16
>>>>>>>>minutes of NTSV DV), you'll run into problems. I don't know
why
>>>>>>>>you're having this particular problem, though, as the file
size
>>>>>>>>sounds right. Probably a codec problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Finally got my system up and running:
>>>>>>>>>>P III, 733 mhz, 192 mb RAM, 30gb ide system drive, 18gb SCSI
>>>>>>>>>>storage drive...
>>>>>>>>>>Captured 20 minutes of video fine with my ATI All In Wonder
>>>>>>>>>>and Videowave software.
>>>>>>>>>>My problem is that when i open the AVI file in Vegas (or
>>>>>>>>>>Soundforge) it only displays 6 and a half minutes of video
>>>>>>>>>>and audio but the timeline is numbered up to the full 20
>>>>>>>>>>minutes. The AVI file plays fine in the Windows Media player
>>>>>>>>>>. Here are my AVI file's specs: ATI YVU9 format codec, 2707
>>>>>>>>>>kb/sec data rate, 29.99 fps, 3 1/2 gb file size.
>>>>>>>>>>Being new to video, i can see it is probably a compression
>>>>>>>>>>problem, maybe Vegas doesn't open files this big. Does
>>>>>>>>>>anybody have a possible fix?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>>>>>>

tedbuchanan wrote on 11/9/2000, 1:36 PM

to Brad and Dave,
Re: Cut off of avi file
I had the problem of "Vegas Vidcap Print-to-Tape" showing only 6 1/2
minutes of much longer AVI file (one which I had rendered using VV
2.0a.) With help of VV tech support, I found that in VV "preferences"
I had box checked that says "strictly conform to AVI2". When I
unchecked that box and rerendered the file, it showed up fine
everywhere. (I am not near my VV machine right now, so I may not have
the exact words for that preference but I know it's something about
"strictly comply....") I know this doesn't exactly fit your situation,
but thought I'd mention it since it's related to a cut-off avi file.
Stick with it Brad because VV is fantastic!
Barb

Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>Is a Pinnacle DV card suitable for my purposes? Anytime i need A-D
>>conversion i can borrow my friend's Digital camera. I'm looking at a
>>tight budget due to spending $300 (Canadian) on an ATI card which
>>has proved useless.
>>Does anybody see a problem with this set up? I'm running 20 minutes
of
>>video captured from a VCR.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>To clarify- the problem is the ATI All-in-Wonder's codec. You are
>>>>hitting the file size limit because of that codec.
>>>>
>>>>Capturing DV from an analog camera or deck is easily achieved by
>>>>using an analog-to-DV converter box (most DV cameras will do a/d
>>>>conversion too). You'll need a converter box (or camera), and any
>>>>OHCI card. You can output back to your analog device with this
same
>>>>setup.
>>>>
>>>>If you buy the DV converter box and OHCI card, the ATI
All-in-Wonder
>>>>card no longer needs to be (and shouldn't be) part of the chain.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>>>>>Thanks Charles and Dave.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave, the Windows Media Player does play the entire length of
the
>>>>>>video. Does this mean it could be something else before i go and
>>>>buy
>>>>>>an A/D box? I know you're not accustomed to recommending
specific
>>>>>>products but i'm kind of in the dark of what kind of converter i
>>>>>>should get. Also, you mentioned an OHCI compliant 1394 card, is
my
>>>>>>current ATI not suitable or can i use that with the converter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks again,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave Hill wrote:
>>>>>>>>.Avi files created using the ATI codec are not OpenDML
>>compliant,
>>>>so
>>>>>>>>you have in fact hit the file size limit. You shouldn't be
able
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>see the end of the file in MediaPlayer either.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>As a solution, you might consider getting a Sony analog-to-DV
>>>>>>>>converter box and any OHCI compliant 1394 card. This would
allow
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>to continue to use your current camera/deck, but you would be
>>>>able
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>get around the file size limit. Image quality would be better
>>too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Charles de Montebello wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Vegas will definitely open files that large but you do have
a
>>>>4gig
>>>>>>>>>>limitation in win98se... So, if you go larger than that
(about
>>>>16
>>>>>>>>>>minutes of NTSV DV), you'll run into problems. I don't know
>>why
>>>>>>>>>>you're having this particular problem, though, as the file
>>size
>>>>>>>>>>sounds right. Probably a codec problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dave?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Brad Ketchen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Finally got my system up and running:
>>>>>>>>>>>>P III, 733 mhz, 192 mb RAM, 30gb ide system drive, 18gb
SCSI
>>>>>>>>>>>>storage drive...
>>>>>>>>>>>>Captured 20 minutes of video fine with my ATI All In
Wonder
>>>>>>>>>>>>and Videowave software.
>>>>>>>>>>>>My problem is that when i open the AVI file in Vegas (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>Soundforge) it only displays 6 and a half minutes of video
>>>>>>>>>>>>and audio but the timeline is numbered up to the full 20
>>>>>>>>>>>>minutes. The AVI file plays fine in the Windows Media
player
>>>>>>>>>>>>. Here are my AVI file's specs: ATI YVU9 format codec,
2707
>>>>>>>>>>>>kb/sec data rate, 29.99 fps, 3 1/2 gb file size.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Being new to video, i can see it is probably a compression
>>>>>>>>>>>>problem, maybe Vegas doesn't open files this big. Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>anybody have a possible fix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Brad
>>>>>>>>>>>>