FX and output panning...still all bus' up !

PipelineAudio wrote on 10/14/2000, 5:20 PM


I like my direct x fx collection. I like to use it. Id
LOVE to use it in vegas more often! But there is still the
problem of fx panning.

If you have a track going out each output discretely,
you MUST pan the track to the output you want it to go to.
This causes the fx send(s) of that track to be panned to
that side of the fx processor you would like to use. NOT
GOOD!!!! This is cool edit " pro " territory, not being
able to use dx fx in the mixer window :(


Ideally, each fx send should have a pan knob.

If that is not possible, at LEAST a pre/post pan switch
for the fx send...COME ON!


Also, on the issue of having to pan to get out discretely,
I got an idea finally....

How about having a stereo pair for each out like the
input does....where you can choose, left right or stereo????

only if you choose stereo, will a pan knob come up ?

I know there will be a problem if you wanted to mix
internally....
oh wait, NO there wouldnt, it would work just the same....



can you, please, will you PLEASE do this ????


Comments

darr wrote on 10/14/2000, 8:15 PM

Aaron have you emailed Peter or others direct?
Try Peter.They are listening to feedback.They lurk in the background
of forum.But I would try peter.I agree!:-)
Aaron Carey wrote:
>>
>>
>> I like my direct x fx collection. I like to use it. Id
>>LOVE to use it in vegas more often! But there is still the
>>problem of fx panning.
>>
>> If you have a track going out each output discretely,
>>you MUST pan the track to the output you want it to go to.
>>This causes the fx send(s) of that track to be panned to
>>that side of the fx processor you would like to use. NOT
>>GOOD!!!! This is cool edit " pro " territory, not being
>>able to use dx fx in the mixer window :(
>>
>>
>> Ideally, each fx send should have a pan knob.
>>
>> If that is not possible, at LEAST a pre/post pan switch
>>for the fx send...COME ON!
>>
>>
>>Also, on the issue of having to pan to get out discretely,
>>I got an idea finally....
>>
>> How about having a stereo pair for each out like the
>>input does....where you can choose, left right or stereo????
>>
>>only if you choose stereo, will a pan knob come up ?
>>
>>I know there will be a problem if you wanted to mix
>>internally....
>>oh wait, NO there wouldnt, it would work just the same....
>>
>>
>>
>>can you, please, will you PLEASE do this ????
>>
>>
>>
Rednroll wrote on 10/14/2000, 9:43 PM
either that or maybe you might want to make it a prefader Send,
I think that would also make it a "pre pan" send. If not then still
make it a "pre fader" send, turn the volume on that track all the way
down, handle where you want it panned in that particular effects
return level adjustment and then go into that effects Mix percentage
and adjust your dry/wet adjustment till you get the blend you want.

David W. Ruby wrote:
>>
>>Aaron have you emailed Peter or others direct?
>>Try Peter.They are listening to feedback.They lurk in the
background
>>of forum.But I would try peter.I agree!:-)
>>Aaron Carey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I like my direct x fx collection. I like to use it. Id
>>>>LOVE to use it in vegas more often! But there is still the
>>>>problem of fx panning.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a track going out each output discretely,
>>>>you MUST pan the track to the output you want it to go to.
>>>>This causes the fx send(s) of that track to be panned to
>>>>that side of the fx processor you would like to use. NOT
>>>>GOOD!!!! This is cool edit " pro " territory, not being
>>>>able to use dx fx in the mixer window :(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, each fx send should have a pan knob.
>>>>
>>>> If that is not possible, at LEAST a pre/post pan switch
>>>>for the fx send...COME ON!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Also, on the issue of having to pan to get out discretely,
>>>>I got an idea finally....
>>>>
>>>> How about having a stereo pair for each out like the
>>>>input does....where you can choose, left right or stereo????
>>>>
>>>>only if you choose stereo, will a pan knob come up ?
>>>>
>>>>I know there will be a problem if you wanted to mix
>>>>internally....
>>>>oh wait, NO there wouldnt, it would work just the same....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>can you, please, will you PLEASE do this ????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
PipelineAudio wrote on 10/15/2000, 12:55 AM


David W. Ruby wrote:
>>
>>Aaron have you emailed Peter or others direct?
>>Try Peter.They are listening to feedback.They lurk in the
background
>>of forum.But I would try peter.I agree!:-)
>>Aaron Carey wrote:
>>>>


I have mailed Peter, quite some time ago about this, and I am
confident that he is moving on this as fast as he is allowed,
according to what priority this problem has, there may be others of
more significance....however these two ARE BIGGIES...

Also tech support is aware of this from an e-mail too, although maybe
it wouldnt hurt for me to pop off another one....

I have suggested many times, as a stopgap temp fix, a direct x fx
called mono to stereo, that does just as the name implies, but have
not seen it...


Just curious, do you have a workround for this bug?

SonyEPM wrote on 10/16/2000, 9:10 AM
We will be revisiting the entire pan/gain/send model in the next
major Vegas revision. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions-

Aaron Carey wrote:
>>
>>
>>David W. Ruby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Aaron have you emailed Peter or others direct?
>>>>Try Peter.They are listening to feedback.They lurk in the
>>background
>>>>of forum.But I would try peter.I agree!:-)
>>>>Aaron Carey wrote:
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>I have mailed Peter, quite some time ago about this, and I am
>>confident that he is moving on this as fast as he is allowed,
>>according to what priority this problem has, there may be others of
>>more significance....however these two ARE BIGGIES...
>>
>>Also tech support is aware of this from an e-mail too, although
maybe
>>it wouldnt hurt for me to pop off another one....
>>
>>I have suggested many times, as a stopgap temp fix, a direct x fx
>>called mono to stereo, that does just as the name implies, but have
>>not seen it...
>>
>>
>>Just curious, do you have a workround for this bug?
>>
>>
blisster wrote on 10/16/2000, 9:46 AM
Is there any kind of time table for the next major revision, even a
rough estimate? It would be greatly appreciated. I want to know if I
should look at other software to meet my needs in the meantime.

-vc

Dave Hill wrote:
>>We will be revisiting the entire pan/gain/send model in the next
>>major Vegas revision. Thanks to everyone for their suggestions-
>>
>>Aaron Carey wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>David W. Ruby wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Aaron have you emailed Peter or others direct?
>>>>>>Try Peter.They are listening to feedback.They lurk in the
>>>>background
>>>>>>of forum.But I would try peter.I agree!:-)
>>>>>>Aaron Carey wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have mailed Peter, quite some time ago about this, and I am
>>>>confident that he is moving on this as fast as he is allowed,
>>>>according to what priority this problem has, there may be others
of
>>>>more significance....however these two ARE BIGGIES...
>>>>
>>>>Also tech support is aware of this from an e-mail too, although
>>maybe
>>>>it wouldnt hurt for me to pop off another one....
>>>>
>>>>I have suggested many times, as a stopgap temp fix, a direct x fx
>>>>called mono to stereo, that does just as the name implies, but
have
>>>>not seen it...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Just curious, do you have a workround for this bug?
>>>>
>>>>
PipelineAudio wrote on 10/16/2000, 7:14 PM


Vern Cooper wrote:
>>Is there any kind of time table for the next major revision, even a
>>rough estimate? It would be greatly appreciated. I want to know if
I
>>should look at other software to meet my needs in the meantime.
>>
>>-vc
>>


No doubt...

As it stands, vegas is excellent for editing time related functions,
ie lining things up, deleteing unnecessary stuff, etc.
and volume functions, fades and such...

but mixing? Im not so sure....
FX are a MUST
hardware control of the faders would be nice too

and it has been quite a long time, and "open copy in sound forge"
still does not work