FX1 PAL vs DVX100 NTSC

handyman wrote on 12/12/2004, 10:07 AM
I've had the Panasonic AG-DVX100 NTSC for some time and am looking at acquiring the HD-FX1 PAL at the moment. I also live/work in PAL land now, so the target format is going to be PAL broadcast or PAL DVD. Stuff like transfer to film or conversion to NTSC doesn't factor in at all at the moment.

Would the FX-1 PAL, with the 50i footage intelligently deinterlaced by Dvfilmmaker 2.1 (direct support for HDV video) look anywhere near as filmic as the 24P footage on my Panasonic?

I also want to shoot in HD resolution, then scale the footage down to regular SD PAL in Combustion. Would the HD detail get completely lost in the conversion to SD resolution, or would small details that HD captures still shine through in the final video, the same way 35mm converted to SD video seems to have finer detail than footage shot on an SD camcorder?

thanks for any help

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Spot|DSE wrote on 12/12/2004, 10:19 AM
z1 images has some images at various stages of evolution that should help.
You'd likely do your deinterlacing in the camera via the Sony mojo vs DV Filmmaker.
handyman wrote on 12/12/2004, 10:23 AM
Sony mojo meaning Cineframe 25?
Spot|DSE wrote on 12/12/2004, 10:27 AM
Exactly
handyman wrote on 12/12/2004, 10:39 AM
I put the downconverted SD Z1 image off that site into Combustion to see how it holds up when colorgrading, and I must say I'm quite impressed - it doesn't seem to break up unless you apply really extreme grading settings to it. Wow. Seems like a really good set of CCDs in that camera.

Is Cineframe 25 more usable than Cineframe 24 then? I realize that the process is much easier to handle in Camera, but from anyone who has tried it, does Cineframe 25 shot at 1/50th shutter give a decently filmic impression in terms of blur and motion? I really, really hate the i50/i60 reality television look.



imageshoppe wrote on 12/12/2004, 1:42 PM
From all indications, CF 25 at 1/50th sec would be the best route to take if you want a good "24fps like". Douglas is right about the amazing "mojo" being done to merge fields together (as is the case with CF30). DV Filmmaker can't hold a candle to it, and it's real-time to boot!

However, CF24(at least from the FX1) is limited to 1/60th sec and from every posted clip I could examine, NOT as good as taking the cameras 60i and running it through DV Filmmaker to make 24fps.

Regards,

Jim Arthurs
handyman wrote on 12/12/2004, 2:57 PM
Thanks for the info. Was wondering because Dvfilm have a special HDV edition now:

http://www.dvfilm.com/fx1/

which takes .mt2 files directly.