A messy situation:
Footage 1920 * 1080 (16:9) @ 25 fps Audio: 48.0 Khz, 16 bits, 2 channels
Footage 1280 * 720 (16:9) @ 59.940 FPS Audio 48 khz 16 bits, 2 channels
I need to edit this footage together and want the end result to be 1920 x 1080.
Can I go ahead and combine and edit the footage in Vegas Pro 19 or will it cause problems?
One possibility is to re-encode, probably the latter, to 1080P @ 25 FPS.
Any VP users been in this situation? What is the best course of action?
Try project (and render) settings 1920x1080 @ 59,940 fps and edit as usual. As an extra option you can try enable/disable smart resampling.
@3POINT Based on your answer, it seems best to re-encode before editing. I am not keen on the idea of 'try'. I see Vegas start glitching-out when I put the two kinds of footage together.
@Former user Hi, can you go to your icon at the top, click it - My Profile, & fill in your Signature with your Vegas version, Windows version & system specs, CPU, GPU, RAM etc. this will then show at the bottom of the comments & will help 👍
Yep often it's better to recode before loading in Vegas if your media is different, then set your project to that size or when you drag in the media click yes to match project to media, Vegas has less to do then when you start editing,
@3POINT Based on your answer, it seems best to re-encode before editing. I am not keen on the idea of 'try'. I see Vegas start glitching-out when I put the two kinds of footage together.
On my system it was no problem to put 1080p25 on a 1080p60 timeline together with 720p60 and render it to 1080p60. The result was even better than expected. Because I can't speak for your system I said 'try'.
@3POINT It depends on how much footage you are dealing with. If you are using a couple of little source files, yeah. But it is likely diminishing returns the more footage you have. The next course of action is to find good software to batch convert footage to something that will work smoothly in Vegas.
The amount of footage should not be a restriction.
@3POINT I tried it with by creating two files, 1920x1080 25fps & 1280x720 59.94fps, they played fine, but that is on my pc which isn't a fair comparison to most, @Former user sometimes it's better to recode before importing to Vegas simply because you know, you can see how it will be before render, you don't want surprises after all the work editing & weird things happen after render, also while editing, all fx's, masks etc can be copied & pasted to other events without issue,
MP4 AVC i find the most stable, other's prob will have there own choice.
@3POINT @Former user I think we can agree that if source footage conforms to the same size and framerate, Vegas has less of a reason to glitch out. I have had some strange bugs in Vegas, where I can edit 1080p footage, no problem--but somehow 720p footage @60fps brings Vegas to its knees, a real head scratcher. Am clearing out some older projects, while bringing in older footage in newer ones. Variable frame rates is one layer of complexity, variable size is another. It can become a dog's breakfast at some point.
@Former user There's a post somewhere on here showing Vegasaur batch rendering, don't know if that would do you 🤷♂️
@Former user I have Vegasaur, does it really do that? Or is it a separate purchase that I make? Wondershare has something that looks intriguing. It's free, apparently.
[[MENTION:undefined]] Don't know, don't have it 🤷♂️😂
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@Former user
"Don't know, don't have it 🤷♂️😂"
Awww, gee, thanks
@Former user got something, back in a min 👍
@Former user If you buy Magix Edit Pro Plus, £48.99, you get NewBlue TotalFX with it, full perpetual licence, I've had MEP for 16yrs+, it's a basic program but pisses on Vegas on playback preview quality & rendering speed is very impressive, i can export a 1hr 4k project in 12mins with this, even if you don't use the editor this buy is worth it just for TotalFX which all work in Vegas, which is worth £700 - £1500 depending on if it's on offer,
https://www.magix.com/gb/video-editing/movie-edit-pro/
but why i mention this ?MEP has a batch render option, i just checked it,
Add files, it opens a Windows folder, choose the files you want,
Choose the render options
batch renders without adding to the timeline
@Former user This TotalFX offer runs out on the 27th of Feb,
https://newbluefx.com/products/totalfx/
I posted this in the OffTopic section of this forum
Variable frame rates is one layer of complexity,
Vegas doesn't like variable framerate. When your footage has variable framerate, as you just mentioned now, the freetool Handbrake is an option to convert to constant framerate before importing into Vegas.
@3POINT What I am trying to do is convert one set of footage to conform with another. But it seems like I may have to convert all to conform with a third footage option. I do use Handbrake but cannot attest to whether it can convert entire folders of footage. I tend to use Handbrake if I need to convert the end result.
@Former user Is that 'batch render' or 'batch convert'? I want to have my source footage conform to one another.
@Former user MEP batch rendering 3840x2160 files to 1920x1080,
@Former user Okay, thanks. I will look into that. It is a problem that does come up sometimes, variable source footage. I need to invest in a solid, long term, stable solution so I don't waste any more time. If I have to buy another piece of software for a peace of mind, so be it.
@Former user I just put together a few random sized files with different frame rates, batch rendered with MEP, top image is before & bottom is after, they're all the same size & frame rate, but like i say that MEP buy with TotalFX is a steal, I already had MEP Premium that only paid for the update just before Xmas, but i bought the upgrade again a wk or so ago just to get TotalFX 😂😁👍👍
@Former user (or anyone else can chime in) based on the footage framerates/dimensions mentioned at the top, what would you suggest the source footage all be converted/conform to?
Now, if I get the MEP package with TotalFX included, can the latter also work in Vegas Pro, or is that a separate purchase?
@Former user me again 🙋♂️ all TotalFX work in Vegas, a bit better than they do in MEP, check out that link i posted
If you're upscaling from 1280x720 to 1920x1080 you'll get some quality loss, there are converters that will upscale with minimal loss, I've been considering this one that was mentioned in one of the posts on here,
https://www.topazlabs.com/video-enhance-ai
& changing media from 59.94fps to 25fps or vise versa might have odd results, i think that would be have to be experimental,
@Former user Ahh okay, so it is not like you have to buy TotalFX for DaVinci Resolve, one for Vegas Pro one for Movie Edit Pro and so on.
As for the footage conversion, bit of a chess game, isn't it?
@Former user yep/no, TotalFX is a NewBlue plugin, it'll show in any program that supports OFX plugins, which is pretty much all but Adobe,, i re-bought MEP just so that i could get TotalFX for Vegas, i use Vegas 90% or the time but keep MEP updated because it's cheap & I'm not ready to let it go, esp as recently in the last couple of yrs they totally overhauled the software to the Infusion Engine, which performs really well at playback & rendering,
Here all NewBlue (TotalFX) show in HitFilm Pro 👍
yep because your changing the size & frame rate of the media it's poss going to have 'interesting' results, & batch rendering you don't have individual control, it's a put the setting as you wish n press Go, hopefully the rendered files will be as you want 🤷♂️😂
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