Good news for ATI owners

Bagheera wrote on 3/8/2006, 2:37 AM
Dear forum,
now the ATI owners in trouble with the "windows secondary display" can use the external monitor preview on Vegas.
Update vegas to 6.0d and use the latest "OMEGA modded drivers - v38221" downloadable from http://www.guru3d.com.
If you enable the extended desktop and set up the teather mode at full screen, voilà the game is playing ....
Now you can select the secondary display from vegas preferences.
I'm currently using the BEST-FULL preview without any problem.

Bye.

Comments

LyricsGirl wrote on 3/8/2006, 3:46 AM
Umm. Interesting.
I have a dual head ATI RADEON 9000 on my video workstation...its around 4 years old now.
When i installed the two Hyundai monitors on it 2 years ago I started utilising both monitors in Vegas..without any problems at all.

Are there many users who were experiencing difficulty?
farss wrote on 3/8/2006, 4:24 AM
No, you're missing something!
Using the second monitor as an external display is quite a different beast to using it as the Vegas preview window.
The external display operates as a Windows overlay which relies rather heavily on the video card doing most of the hard work.
Bob.
DJPadre wrote on 3/8/2006, 4:30 AM
yeah usually when previewing full screen on teh second display all your desktop shortcuts are thrown al over the joint.. however to be honest with you i think its the ATI drivers nuking themselves mroe than anything, since updating to the latest ATI drivers, i have found that i can only get OpenGL to display on one screen at a time ONLY.. now this meant that my Particle Illusion 2 screen setup had to go.. coz i used to preview across on teh far right display and have my work area on the left display.

Im still looking into this, but i think its time to jump ship to Nvidia..
the 6800 is an AGP card which works wonders with OpenGL as well as allowing almost realtime performance from Magic Bullet..

TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/8/2006, 5:17 AM
just use a previous version of the ATI drivers. There's not any reason to update unless you need a fix.

I use the omega drives because they have some nicer features then the ATI ones. Built off the same code but more optomized.


www.omegadrivers.net/
Bagheera wrote on 3/9/2006, 5:15 AM
I'm using Vegas on a DELL laptop, so I can't change the video card, i was urged to search a solution to the preview.
First of all, i've used the Tv-Out plugin, but sometime lacks on preview, halting itself from showing the precalculated preview.
Now the I can use my ATI X600, with the native external preview, the show is smoother and more precise.

Some new video cards, as the X600 is, maybe suffer of these problems...

Bye.
Xander wrote on 3/9/2006, 7:38 AM
Has anybody tried the new ATI v6.3 drivers which comes with the new Avivo Video Converter? I have an X850, but it doesn't show up as an option. Not sure if it only works on the new X series cards or not.

For those who don't know, the Avivo Video Converter is supposed to use the GPU on the video card for vidio compression / transcoding, i.e. cut down render time by 80%. Supports MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4/DivX, WMV, H.264/AVC.

Xander
24Peter wrote on 3/9/2006, 8:42 AM
I'm using Vegas 5 and an ATI X700 card (PCIe 256MB). My PC (Win XP Pro) is set up to extend my desktop on to my HDTV (I'm using the component out from the ATI X700 card). In Vegas I drag the preview window out to the TV and it works fine except I can't get a full screen preivew no matter what setting I use (BTW - playback looks the same no matter what setting - draft, good, best, full etc.) I've expanded the window to fill the whole TV screen but the video preview remains a small box in the center of this vast window. I think the preview size is 720X480 (I have to check later when I'm on that computer) and the resolution for the external TV monitor in the ATI driver window is much larger (again I'd need to check). Do I need Vegas 6 to view my previews at full screen on the TV or is there another way?
TheHappyFriar wrote on 3/9/2006, 6:39 PM
didn't you know? ALL ATI Radeon's have built in video decoders? :) They all do much of the decoding on the GPU board. From the origional to the latest one! Nvidia didn't start with that until the 5x series I belive (it was a big bulletpoint for them).
Stonefield wrote on 3/9/2006, 6:52 PM
Here's something I've always wondered. And I may repost this on it's own thread.

What is the difference between Vegas 6's secondary/video out display ablity to Mike Crash's TV Out plug in ???

Also, what is different from Vegas 6's secondary/video display out to just moving the preview window to it's own computer monitor and having that monitor on a low rez setting ( like 640 X 480 , or whatever ) so that the preview fills up the entire computer screen ?

Bagheera wrote on 3/13/2006, 3:59 AM
I believe that the internal preview is more accurate, because sometimes tue TV-Out plugin lacks in the playback of memory rendered scenes.

The technics used are the same, a directX planar where the video is wrote.
To fill the screen, you must set-up the "theather mode" of the extended display and set-up it to fullscreen.
You can do that simply using the latest ati-tray tool, which is simpler than the ControlCenter distributed by ATI.

Bye.
Laurence wrote on 3/13/2006, 7:25 AM
I have a two monitor setup with the second monitor being a combo LCD TV/PC monitor. That way I can preview over either 1394 or as a second computer monitor. I'll tell you, the two monitor system works well but I prefer the 1394 method. With the two monitor setup, if you set the preview resolution low, you still see hi rez video everywhere but the transitions or where filters are applied. If you do mostly straight cuts like me, that means that with very low overhead you are previewing mostly at high quality. With the dual monitor setup, your preview resolution is your preview resolution. If you lower the preview resolution, it lowers the previewing resolution throughout.
Bagheera wrote on 3/16/2006, 3:41 AM
Yes, I know, but to use the 1394 output I need an expensive converter....

thanks.