Good Signals from Sony

RRA wrote on 4/16/2010, 4:39 AM
Hi,

SCS put emphasis that update to 9d is actually upgrade. It could be paid (because of new functionality which users will appreciate) but it's free.

IMHO it means that we are very close to regular upgrade to Vegas 10 which will be new quality and will include elements like this :

- redesigned music content generator (already announced)
- full implementation of 3D (TM management, composition for passive, active or anaglyph systems, internal plugins for convergence)
- advanced integration with Flash (read/write, customize codecs in rendering, users scripts library (for embed playes, buttons, menus etc)).

This upgrade will be paid and it will be finall cut for 32bit. It is possible that from this point will start split of Vegas development way : for product designed for broadcasting or mid volume DVD production and product designed for lo vol prod or independent content for web creators. Another scenario : some features will be collected in separately sold module like Production Assistant. I hope 3D, music and flash will remain in Vegas core.

Best regards,

Comments

ushere wrote on 4/16/2010, 6:12 AM
do you read tarot cards as well? ;-)

i agree it was nice to have some 'goodies' added to 9d, but to think these added functions were of 'major' importance is stretching credulity somewhat.

i would expect 10 to be a MAJOR upgrade - i have no idea in what direction scs is heading, but i would think that getting rid of vfw should be a priority as other nle's display smooth playback where vegas struggles...

whatever happens, sony will probably get my money - i might have cursed and thrown the odd wobbly occasionally when things went belly up, but there's still nothing close to the speed and general stability it has to offer the 'average' user.
richard-courtney wrote on 4/16/2010, 6:37 AM
I think RRA is right about there being an upcoming split with 64 bit being Pro and
32 bit being Consumer. The demands of software these days and the expected
quality for pro and 3D (I would like to experiment but can't justify the gear) currently
leaves questions on many department heads on future purchases.

A separate path and possible a new name for the Pro software might be in
Vegas' future.
Jøran Toresen wrote on 4/16/2010, 7:30 AM
RCourtney: ” A separate path and possible a new name for the Pro software might be in Vegas' future.”

And the new name is “Sony Media Creator Pro” :)
rmack350 wrote on 4/16/2010, 7:32 AM
Or "Make.Believe.Pro" ;-)

Rob
TheHappyFriar wrote on 4/16/2010, 8:39 AM
there already is a split between a pro & non-pro version. It's here & there's not much they can really do unless they spin of a $30k copy. Which, odds are, nobody here would buy & the complaints would be "why should I shell out that much $$ for something that two years ago would be been in this version!"

Just look @ how many complained about DVDA lacking in BD while there's another pro end BD app sold. No difference here.
FrigidNDEditing wrote on 4/16/2010, 10:23 AM
lol, I thought this was an april fools post just 15 days late :P, because it was so full of complete speculation being thrown out there as what was going to happen, based on no real indications that I've seen (but what do I know).

Dave
apit34356 wrote on 4/16/2010, 10:34 AM
Dave, but its nice to see positive speculation vs. how bad vegas is and that everyone should use FCP. ;-)
kairosmatt wrote on 4/16/2010, 11:37 AM
I thought we were supposed to be using Avid?

kairosmatt
RRA wrote on 4/16/2010, 11:46 AM
Hi,

You are right : there is diversification of Vegas line but it's mirror of editors learning curve. Hi Vol product is separate issue. I'm with Vegas from version 7 and trying to recapitulate development. What I can see - and it's very heavy remark - in each update/ugprade there is about 50% of improvement which i just love and another 50% which is quite unusable for me (even can't see prospect for use anywhen). Example : people have written very good opinions about closed captioning - I will never use this option, I'm not going to pay for it - I suppose that SCS programmers had spent a lot of time to create this tools and would be very glad to get feedback (in money). Because product is SKILLS DIVERSIFIED and NOT PROFILE OF BUSINESS DIVERSIFIED I can observe that this is very difficult to keep possitive feedback from users.

I'm a marketing gay and we are very close to confrontation with 3D and FLASH. Both are very huge issues and I'm sure that it will be another criteria which will be used to distinguish between Vegas users (business profiless). Please remark, that people in marketing (very often use graphs, bars, titles, vector contents etc) are actually 3D ready (and it's realy lo cost workflow optimization) because all what I need to convert to 3D is CGI (not movie !). It leads to conclusion that I need quite different set of tools then filmaker. If subject is heavier and heavier then need to split Vegas stronger and stronger.

Best regards,
Earl_J wrote on 4/16/2010, 12:57 PM
You know,
with all the demand for film-like 24p and such ... with all the darkening of the exposures and the scratchy-looking techniques of many newer film producers and advocates... and now the split of pro and consumer ... maybe Sony will come out with a black and white version so we can shoot video in the tradition of Hitchcock and other pillars of the black and white realm of old...

Whadyathink? Sony! Are you listening?
Everyone join right in ...
bring back the black and white...
bring back the black and white...!
BRING BACK THE BLACK AND WHITE...!

lol (tongue tucked firmly in cheek...)

I couldn't help myself ... the devil made me do it ...
(ala Flip Wilson ... yet another black and white pioneer... (grin))

Until that time... Earl J.
Geoff_Wood wrote on 4/16/2010, 5:57 PM
Hardly an upgrade. For one thing DVD burning should have been there years ago - certainly before Blu-ray !

geoff
IAM4UK wrote on 4/17/2010, 4:08 PM
I'd just like the software to work reliably at this point. Vegas Pro 9.0x have been painful.
RRA wrote on 4/20/2010, 9:49 AM
Hi,

I actually have compassion for those of you that experience technical problem with Vegas. Fortunatelly from version 8a uptil now I have been fighting with just one problem (folders disappearing in pluginmanager) which is still present and SCS can't find solution (can't recreate). To be honest I suppose it's connected with my Vista registry mess (or services config), not with Vegas. But I regret they don't even want to look in to the registry files which I have sent them.

I don't know what is the reason that Vegas work properly for me, maybe i7 975 lucky config. I don't have problems like red frames, long nonresponsive periods, titler problems, media generator problems, long time of openning projects, problems with nesting. I had - as everybody - problem with Quick Time upgrade, but 9d has solved it. I had bought Corel GSx5 and had problem with Protexis licensing. I have asked support and they sent me patch and problem solved. In net I can found a lot of people which has experienced the same problem and patch does'nt work.

As i said : lucky config.

PS.

Layered PSD : this is very powerfull update and critical for me. With help of Corel GSx5 I can finnally do what I want with every vector file including Adobe Ilustrator. All Digital Juice Ai content is now usefull. Using NewBlue effects and keyframing on layered DJ Ai files is incredibile !!!

Best regards,