Graffiti LTD in Vegas

JaysonHolovacs wrote on 7/7/2004, 7:16 AM
All,
I haven't played with the limited version of Boris Graffiti that ships with Vegas. Is the limited version worth the time to investigate and learn, or is it too limited to be useful? At this point in time, I don't NEED a fancy titler, just might like to play with one, and don't have the budget to buy a full-fledged one after buying Vegas, DVD burner, extra HD, more RAM, ...

Since this is just for fun and hobby use, would you suggest just using the Vegas titling media generation facilities or learning the limited Boris edition? Or are there good free/inexpensive shareware utilities I should check out?

-Jayson

Comments

Jay Gladwell wrote on 7/7/2004, 7:35 AM
Jayson, I'm so spoiled by the ease of learning Vegas that I gave up on Graffiti. It has a very steep learning curve, as you must know by now.

No two of us are alike. Some folks here swear by it. The bottom line? It's your call, my friend.

Jay
rs170a wrote on 7/7/2004, 7:40 AM
Jayson,
After listening to some of the negative comments, I was hesitant to try this titler as well. When I finally got around to trying it, I found it fairly intuitive and barely read the manual.
I'd suggest learning it. It's just another (free) tool in your Vegas arsenal.
There are other inexpensive ($40 - $50 range) titlers out there but the names escape me right now. Hopefully someone else will chime in.

Mike
Mandk wrote on 7/7/2004, 7:56 AM
I agree, once you get over the initial learning curve the program does make sense and does some great things. Vegas is easier to use in a lot of applications but Boris does somegreat advanced things. I bought the program for long credit rolls and have not been disappointed. I also have the companion program Boris FX. This has some interesting special effects and generators.

Play with it, you might like it.
daves2 wrote on 7/7/2004, 7:45 PM
Mike - go to www.wildform.com ... wild fx is $39 and seems to be flash output only and the 'pro' version at $99 outputs avi, etc.

I was a little put off by the learning curve of the boris tool...I would bet that if you really need something like that, that's it's very good and I hope I can make the time to learn it

the wild fx tool has basically no learning curve.. worth downloading the demo just to see it...don't forget to set the colors to million+ in order to get the alpha channel info (for transparency)...when you import the clip into vegas, right click on it and set the alpha channel property (I forget which one, but the default doesn't give you transparency)

the effects seem pretty good -- they came out a little different in the exported avi than they looked in the preview in the tool, but you can insert addt'l frames to slow them down and add frames at the start/end to pad it a bit to get the whole thing...

didn't render the project, was just trying out the tool...

what do you think of it? (and no I don't have anything to do w/ them but did see your post!)
JohnnyRoy wrote on 7/7/2004, 8:17 PM
I have a Boris tutorial on my web site if you want to spend 30 minutes going through it. Boris Graffiti LTD is an excellent titler that has some nice preset styles that would take several layers of compositing to do in Vegas. I’ve used it for both static titles and credit rolls and it does a great job. I like it and use it.

~jr
orca wrote on 7/28/2004, 11:20 PM
Hello JohnnyRoy,

Thanks for the tutorial, it certainly helped me to get started. Just a quick question, actually for anyone here. If I export to TGA sequence, is it better to select FIELDS to NONE so it's going to produce a progressive image for further processing? Please advise.


JasonMurray wrote on 7/28/2004, 11:31 PM
I was put off by the negative comments on Boris too... I haven't tried it, but will do so when I get some time.

I did try Blufftitler, and have fallen in love with it (slightly quirky interface and all). Also, BT's author is responsive and friendly via email - $40 well spent in my book.
orca wrote on 7/28/2004, 11:46 PM
I'm just trying this out, but I think the result is pretty stunning, it's just that it's not as easy to use (at least for now). I think for static titling you can accomplish similar effect with Photoshop, but with the presets, you can get things done a bit faster with Graffiti.

Chesapeake wrote on 7/29/2004, 10:06 AM
I too appreciate the tutorial you posted-very helpful; do you have any pointers
regarding the other features in movie mode (ie placing lights and moves)
also how to add multiple lines of type.

Someone mentioned a manual- is this downloadable?

Thanks again.

Al