GUI becomes sluggish in Capture app

Brazilian wrote on 3/26/2003, 1:38 AM

I just got Vegas 4 for my home machine (Dual 1.7Ghz Athlon with ADS Pyro) but noticed the same thing with the Vegas demo on a machine at work (Dual 2.8Ghz Xeon with built-in firewire). When in the capture app, the GUI becomes horrendously sluggish.. Pushing the 'play' button doesn't do anything for several seconds, trying to drag the shuttle bar around is...interesting... the timecode will run for a second and then freeze up for a few seconds, etc. It all seems to work OK but it's terribly annoying.

Is this normal? And if it is, are there any 3rd party capture apps I could use instead? Because this is nearly unusable. Totally frustrating.

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SonyEPM wrote on 3/26/2003, 9:27 AM

This is abnormal- what DV device are you using? Any other system details you can provide would be appreciated.

Brazilian wrote on 3/27/2003, 1:20 AM

I am using a Canon XL1S.

Again, I have a Dual 1.7Ghz Athlon, ADS Pyro basic 1394 with just the default Microsoft drivers; Windows 2000, SP2..

Though like I said, this occured on a totally different machine at work, but still with my camera.. perhaps it's the XL1S Vegas doesn't quite like? We have a Sony Digital 8 lying around at work, I'll hook that up and see if it acts any differently.

Brazilian wrote on 4/1/2003, 11:10 PM

OK. I finally found some time to test this with a different camera.

On the same computer/firewire setup, a Sony Digital 8 camcorder controlled fine under Vegas (sorry, I forgot to scribble down the model number on my way out, but I can get it if you care).

So it seems that there is a bad interaction between Vegas and the Canon XL1s. Has Sonic done ANY testing with the XL1 or XL1s? I know it's not listed on the compatibility page (the GL1 is tho) but it seems like it aught to work. I would be more than happy to run any debug versions if you need to collect more information, or test any possible fixes. It's certainly an important camera to fully support.

frank_jarle wrote on 4/1/2003, 11:27 PM

Just a thought...Could it be the Firewire card itself that is the problem?

Frankie
Singapore

Brazilian wrote on 4/2/2003, 2:38 AM

It seems unlikely, as I said I've tried the camera on two separate computers, one with built-in Firewire and the other with an ADS Pyro.. but tomorrow I might install the cheesy video editing app that comes with the Pyro and see if it controls my XL1s OK or not.

SonicJD wrote on 4/2/2003, 11:22 AM

Hello Brazilian,

I too own Canon cameras (tiny little ZRs)and experience the same problem. The Canon communicates over IEEE 1394 (doesn't matter what brand) in a strange way. If you watch your timecode when capturing, you'll see the ticker update dramatically about once a second. This has never, ever, affected capture or print to tape, but it's been acting this way since version 2.0. It may bug you a bit, but its nothing to worry about.

SonyEPM wrote on 4/2/2003, 1:55 PM

also: I have used both the XL-1 and the Gl-1 (this latter almost daily) under 2k sp2, no sluggishness.

mp3superfreak wrote on 4/2/2003, 5:09 PM

My Canon ZR10 causes sluggishness in V4 as well. I remember it did the same in VV3. I'm using XP Pro SP1, AMD XP1700, 1GB PC-2100DDR, 40GB 7200rpm (system), 60GB and 120GB 7200RPM (video), and a generic TI chipset FireWire card.

I'm saving up for a "real" camcorder (Sony VX2000), and this current problem with the ZR10 seems not to affect the capturing quality.

Brazilian wrote on 4/2/2003, 9:16 PM

I'm OK with the timecode not updating smoothly-- as you say it seems to still capture correctly-- but what is more annoying is the fact that the whole GUI goes into this lurching mode, so it mades it incredibly difficult to control the camera for manual captures, or just scanning around trying to find something specific.