No one will know until Quicktime 7 is ofifically released and people have a chance to test it.

You can already output to H.264 AVC using frameserver from Satish and Nero Recode. Honestly, from what I have seen thus far, the H.264 in QT is VERY VERY slow and the quality is not as well as Nero/Ateme's codec.

Did anyone try the MainConcept H264 encoder with DVDA 3.0?
I was wondering if the freshly released Vegas or DVDA could read the files encoded by mainConcept H264.....
Would be nice to burn H264, I think....
http://www.mainconcept.com/h264_encoder.shtm
Thank you.

burn what ? doesn't DVD now only support mpeg2
and BluRay and HD-DVD are still sorting out whivh variety of MPEG4 either or both is going to use when they start producing - later this year?

Thank you, may be my idea was wrong...
I was imagining the following scenario:
- create avi or mpeg2 movie with Vegas
- render it with mainconcept H.264 for a high compression
- import this H264 file in DVDA and burn as mpeg2
- result: 3...4hours on a DVD and pretty good quality
Sorry, just thinking it loud, would be possible, what am I missing ?
Thank you.

Not sure what your point is in going from avi to H264, then to MPEG from the 264? You're creating your DVD with a compromised master if you do that. The point is to start with the best quality source, so going straight to MPEG from the timeline, avoiding avi in the mean time, is always best.

I am not able to open some Sorenson created MPEG4 H264s here in either Vegas or DVD-A. And you can't save to MPEG4 (yet) with Vegas
but even if you do render the H264 as an MPeg2 it seems to me that you are recompressing an already highly compressed file - it may not fare well
I'd say try to find some app that wiil open your H264 files which can also render it as MPEG2 - stress test it and see
you might find something to do this here <http://www.doom9.org/>
it's a good place to stay abreast of the Mpeg 4 wars too

You cant open them because they are not supported. You may have some success with mpeg-4 files that are in an avi container. MP4 containers are NOT supported.

Also, H.264 AVC is a delivery format. It is HIGHLY compressed. It was not intended to be edited, at least with consumer, prosumer type apps. The quality you would get from going to avi to h.264 to dvd would be horrible and in my opinion, unwatchable.

Also, Sorenson's AVC codec is not very good. Better than Mainconcept's piece of crap but not even close to the quality that Nero/Ateme provide. Now if they would only make Nero codecs available to other apps, life would be perfect.

" going to avi to h.264 to dvd would be horrible and in my opinion, unwatchable."

but I thought that was what Nero Recode was getting setup to do for either BluRay or HD-DVD when it happens - isn't H264 going to be the standard for one of those?

I think Patricks point is the same as mine....Re-Compressing highly compressed media isn't a good thing. Ever

There is a big difference here. H.264 is a delivery format. Mpeg-2 is a delviery format. Converting a highly compressed format (H.264) to another highly compressed format (Mpeg-2) would result in horrible quality.

It is true that H.264 is part of the HD-DVD/Blu Ray, but they dont take H,264 AVC and convert it to Mpeg-2.

The specs for HD-DVD/Blu Ray isnt set yet. While you could make your H.264 AVC files now, no one knows how the mnu and file layout will be.

ive been doing OK going VV to a mac and then QT7 compression H.264....20 Gig movie down to 43 mgs and very nice quality....took a few hours though..

I ask about VV because its never even let you select options under QT- mpeg4...would be nice to not have to port to mac just to make a web movie.

whats the workflow on nero?

http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/articles/frameserve.htm for the Nero workflow straight from Vegas.