He could also be referring to the combing effect of interlacing.

Do you have a screen-shot with the effect being shown?

De-interlacing works best if you set the "Full-resolution rendering quality" to Best in the project properties page. It also takes longer to render.

If the DVD is displayed on a TV, you should get away with rendering it interlaced. As for which de-interlace is best for you if you need to do it, I can not tell.

Simple answer:
No, interlacing will not show when playing a DVD.

If the "herringbone" effect is really bad, it is probably interlace combing from having the field order wrong.

Hi Bob.

Thank you for your reply. The vido source is from a Sony 1920-1080 chip and harddrive. I have set Vegas to that source. NTSC wide screen. I am rendering to ST DVD 720 and pix to 1.21 . I just rendered Wedding disk 2 and it look great.....??? On the PC ,,,, set the same I see hairingbone,,,, running lines ,,,, where ever there are fine lines and highlight. Like on the brides gown, on the church windows, on the back of the back of the church pews where there is light reflecing of the edge. I did a test on the PC with no blend or interpolate,,,, just none.... the video was beautiful,,,, then I do not know how that will be on he TV... This video is for the bride and groom,,,,, SD DVD.

I see you answered with in an hour or so,,, thank you. This is the first time to write on a forum.. I started rendering and so just check the forums.. Learning,,,,,,,, all my life,,,,, which is half the fun..

GLADDEN

Most likely these fine lines are the normal result of interlaced video.
However you need to be very specific e.g. when you say "On the PC". We need to know how you played the rendered video i.e. using what software.

Vegas's preview window in Best / Full shows both fields so you will see the interlacing, this is perfectly normal. Other players such as VLC and software DVD players will de-interlace so you will not see the interlace combing. If I have any doubts I always check anything before I send it out on a CRT based monitor or TV. Modern LCD or plasma displays can mask problems OR they can show problems that are only the fault of the display sending you off chasing ghosts.

Please bear with all of us as we try to help you. In this business a picture is really worth a 1,000 words.

Bob.

Hi Bob,,, I play the rendered video on Windows Media player. I just looked at the second DVD disk 2 done with my lapto and it looks fine. SO,,, is it beat to blend, interpolate, or set it to none?? When I played it back using NONE it sure did look good. Then it need to at it's best on a DVD player for the Bride and Groom.. I have just been at this for about 2 weeks going on 3 weeks. Still having trouble with the buttons showing black in the center of the butons. Some thing about Vegas sees the first frams and if it is black it default to a black background.. Is there a way to set the buttons to show threw to the video under it or just make them with a white center..... Like a heart shows the button fine it is just that the center is black.

Thank You Bob.

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"Is there a way to set the buttons to show threw to the video under it or just make them with a white center..... Like a heart shows the button fine it is just that the center is black"

I assume you're doing this in DVDA??

You can select which frame of the video is used in the button.
If you want an animated button then things can get a bit more compicated. I usually prepare a peice(s) of video specifically for use inside the button frame. You may also need to consider what you use as a mask for the video. You also need to consider how this plays out as buttons are clicked.
If you want nothing in the button you can set media to None.
You can also adjust button opacity.

I don't want to sound offensive but you really need to read the DVDA manual and read it several times. You need to understand how DVDs themselves work.

Bob.

Hello Musicvid.

I am looking at your answer. When you say NO do you mean set the enterlace to NONE,,,,and not to either interpolate or blend?? When set to NONE the rendered video sure look good on the compurter.. It will look good on a TV too.. better that blend or interpolate????

GLADDEN

Hi Coursedesign.

What is the right field order? I have not change that.. It is set as the default..??

Thank You
GLADDEN.

Hi Farss.

You are not offensive to me,,, and you are right... I must get the wedding DVD out before this weekend and so I jumped in,,,,, full speeed ahead dam the torpedos... as Clark Gable said...

I am not worried about animation right now,,,, no time.. just do not want balck in the center of the buttons for a wedding... How do I set the buttons to white ,,,,, where??? Buttons property,, I am using Vegas Pro 9. AND THEN IMPORT THEM INTO DVDA.. This is where I am having trouble with the black centers.

Gladden,

To put all negatives to rest, I meant, "Yes, interlaced DVDs will play correctly on any DVD Player and TV." Hope that is simple enough that you will accept and understand.

If you're trying to composite the buttons into the video in Vegas then you do have a problem. They contain an alpha channels. If you get Vegas to ignore that then they'll be black.
If you R Click the button event and select an alpha channel type they'll be transparent.

Ideally I would not recommend doing this at all. I'd use DVDA to add the buttons, you'll need to wrangle the button actions in DVDA anyway.

If you create a video with an embedded button image and render it out as mpeg-2 DVDA will have to re-encode it anyway which will not help the quality.

Simplest way to make a DVD:

Render video to mpeg-2 using template, adjust bitrate values.
Render audio to 16bit / 48KHz or ac3.

Open DVDA, drag mpeg-2 file(s) created above onto background. Change buttons, themes etc to taste.

Bob.

Hi Bob,,,, I am doing the rendering and editing in Vegas and then bring the rendered video and audio in the DVDA. and that is where I am haveing trouble with the black centers on the buttons.. I have the DVDA worked out ok just need white centers on the buttons..First few day on an forum... First time ever.. LOVE IT !!

GLADDEN

Where can I get a screen -shot for you to see. I sent tech support a 5 second clip.. Can I post a clip or send you a clip by e-mail??

re: buttons in DVDA, see Button Properties on pages 73-75 of the PDF manual (pages 77-79 in acrobat reader).

Where can I get a screen -shot for you to see. I sent tech support a 5 second clip.. Can I post a clip or send you a clip by e-mail??

A still is enough. You can send a PM via my profile here.

But from what you described before, I have to ask a few things.

1) Are the "herring bones" you describe a purely horizontal sawtooth pattern, or does it look like interference patterns through running down the screen and in pinstripes on clothing?
2) Where are you seeing this, in the preview, or in the final render?
3) What is the "Full-resolution rendering quality" setting in your project properties?

Best Regards
A.Grandt

I will send one now.. I have been rendering so can not always get back to the forum.. What is PM,, I will click on you name and see. New at this forum,,, in fact first time anywhere just this week..

1. Not purely horizontal sawtooth. the edge of hard line have a sawtooth. the highlight on the back of the church benches and in the church windows. O the brick walls the pattern is running all over.

2. I see it in the preview which is set to auto and test to on best.. I see in the the rendered video and I see it in the final DVD produced with DVDA. When I look at the meida bins and click on the thums,,, it plays in the preview window and it looks fine,,,

3. Full rendering set to best and blend for this last one.. I have tried interpolat and see not chang.. If I sent the interlace to none,,,, the sawtooth is not so bad... The quality does not look as good as in the meida bins that come from Sony PMB..

NOW::: I did part 2,,, second DVD on the laptop and it is beautiful.. I have spent hours looking to see what I could find that is different.. every thing is the same,,,, that I can see....

Thank you for your help.
GLADDEN.

PM = Private Message (email etc)

Sent you an Emial Gladden.

Have been looking for your e-mail,,,, see nothing.. My server did have a problem yesterday and I got almost 1000 e-mails . I do have your e-mai marked as " no spam " so should have gotton it..Would you please resend it.. I will look very close for you name. Thank you for your help....

GLADDEN...