Hardware question?

vicmilt wrote on 8/26/2012, 2:18 PM
Hi gang... Change it, Leave it, or Accept it.
But Quit Whining...your life is your own.

I've reached the end of my Q6600, striped drives, 8 gig ram. Nvidia 530 rope.

Compusa has a lenovo w i7, 12 gig, nvidia 630, 2tb hd, for just under a grand.

I only shoot and edit canon 5d and a bunch of after effects stuff.

1 - wiil I see 1000 bucks worth of improvement?
2 - do I need the striped drives with this new tech?

My System works fine, if I don't mind regular crashes, and slooow renders from ae.

Thoughts from the experts?

Comments

dibbkd wrote on 8/26/2012, 2:27 PM
Which i7 chip is it? There are about 2 dozen different variants and they differ greatly in speed and price.

Use this site to compare CPU models:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/CPU benchmark[/link]

Some of the slowest i7's will be slower than your Q6600, the fastest i7's will be 3 times faster.
vicmilt wrote on 8/26/2012, 2:37 PM
Third gen 3770 , hardware tech stuff is a mystery to me.

here's the link:
(and thanks!)

http://m.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2198428&CatId=4928
dibbkd wrote on 8/26/2012, 3:14 PM
There are 4 different i7 3770 chips, but they are all super-fast, so any of them would smoke your old CPU.

You can just type in "i7" or "3770" in this search to compare them:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.phpsearch for your CPU here[/link]
vicmilt wrote on 8/26/2012, 3:50 PM
Could you could check the link and see if the machine itself has any obvious faults for this kind of work?

Also, will I need striped drives, or is that just "antiquated tech" at this point?
Geoff_Wood wrote on 8/26/2012, 3:56 PM
Antiquated and unnecessary. And more vulnerable to (admittedly unlikely) failure.

geoff
Tim20 wrote on 8/27/2012, 6:13 AM
I just built a system similiar to that. Mine is an i3700k. I had a Q9300. You will see much faster renders especially in AE if you are using latest version and get it setup to make use of all of the cores and ram.

In Vegas GPU accleration has been hit and miss. Sometimes it just crashes so much it is easier to just turn it off. The newer intel cpu is just about as fast. I also have to run Vegas in compatability mode to keep crashes down.
Gidi wrote on 8/30/2012, 5:14 AM
Went from a Q9400 to a E3-1240 which is quiet close to your I7-3770.

Rendertest went from 141 seconds down to 38 seconds.

Render speed experience is from around realtime (AVC) to twice as fast (DVD).

For me that upgrade was worth it.
videoITguy wrote on 10/2/2012, 10:30 PM
For OP's original question......
Orig. Reply by: videoITguy Date: 10/2/2012 2:47:31 PM

To vicmilt: I note you have dropped by with your "striped drives" question several times ( I assume you are meaning to use Raid-0 for performance rather than other Raid configs for fault tolerance??).
If my assumption is wrong forgive what I am relating to next.

I think the answer to configuring Raid-0 in your systems is a whole lot more complicated than can be given with a pat response. There are so many issues to consider- I have configured Raid-0 for editing for many years and yet today I am more confused than ever and certainly even feel underqualified to deliver consultation today.

The answer all depends on using Raid-0 based on where your config and deployment stands. If I build a workstation class machine today for Firewire capture and edit - I would likely use the following parts and technology -1) A high-end CPU/motherboard with Sata6 drives and USB3 ports with as many drives and ports filled as possible- no Raid-0. The workflow would be capture to one drive, render to another drive, maybe scratch disk on a third or several drives supporting mutliple streams with one stream dedicated per drive.

On the other hand - Raid-0 would probably be necessary for capture of 10-bit 4-4-2 uncompressed through high-end capture cards.

There are many places that Raid can be configured and some are very cheap - but you usually get what you pay for and the result in performance can easily be throttled by bottlenecks elsewhere in your configuration. So you could easily spend $600 for a hardware raid that will deliver no improvement to a given system.