HD rendering crashes

Illusioneer wrote on 8/8/2010, 10:50 AM

After waiting for so long, BD writers have come down enough in price for me to invest. To my chagrin however, I discovered that I cannot render my Canon HF11 created files in any way at all. I have tried the Sony AVC and the MainConcept MPG engines with default settings, as well as with changed bit-rates (a solution I found in a thread in this forum). DVD rendering still works OK, it just seems to be the HD templates that do not work.

I am using VP8.0c in XPSR3 with maximum RAM for 32 bit. Am I doomed to upgrade to W7 & VP9 (64-bit?).

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John_Cline wrote on 8/8/2010, 11:39 AM

What do you mean you "can't render?" What happens?

musicvid10 wrote on 8/8/2010, 11:44 AM

I dare say that "most" people in this forum editing Canon AVCHD in Vegas render to Cineform or another intermediate first. A forum search will lead you to lots of discussions on this.

That being said, Vegas 10 "may" be released in the foreseeable future. I would be surprised if some of these issues are not addressed in the new release.

Illusioneer wrote on 8/8/2010, 11:48 AM

Computer just stops and switches off. No BSOD or anything like that. I have not actually seen it happen, but I have been near by and glancing at it. One minute it was running, then the screen is blank and the computer is stopped (have to push power button to start). I did manage to get one small (1 min) clip rendered. For a longer one, compilation of clips to 10 minutes, one mpg file was readable but only had a length of 7' 50". AVC does not even creata readable file

(P.S. thanks for the quick reaction, let me swell your head more and say you are the best)

musicvid10 wrote on 8/8/2010, 11:53 AM

Wow, that could be CPU overheating.
To rule it out, start your hardware monitor, and watch the temp as you render. If it gets close to the shutoff temp, you know you've got a problem.

rs170a wrote on 8/8/2010, 11:54 AM

Sounds like a heat issue to me.
When was the last time you took the sides off and blew out the dust bunnies?
Core Temp is a handy and free utility to check your temps during rendering.

Mike

Illusioneer wrote on 8/8/2010, 12:12 PM

I will check the heast, but recently did open up and clean so hopefully not a heat probalem I have the ATI monitor, so I will watch the temp. Thanks to all for the useful comments.

(Currently trying a avi/YUV render)

Illusioneer wrote on 8/8/2010, 12:14 PM

Got it, yes my CPU temp is WAY up, will find out why.

THANKS again fro everyone's help

amendegw wrote on 8/8/2010, 12:31 PM

"Got it, yes my CPU temp is WAY up, will find out why."One sure way to confirm that the CPU temperature is the problem is to do this:

Start->run>eventvwr.msc

Check the System event log for a "thermal Event"

Good Luck - could just be a matter of blowing out the dust from your vents,
...Jerry

musicvid10 wrote on 8/8/2010, 1:02 PM

I keep Speedfan running in my tray all the time. Very little overhead, and I know instantly when things start to warm up when rendering.

http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php

John_Cline wrote on 8/8/2010, 1:12 PM

You probably wont, but it deserves mentioning; don't use a vacuum cleaner to suck the dust out of your machine, blow it out with canned air or an air compressor. Canned air is ridiculously expensive, so I keep an air compressor around just for this purpose.

Harbor Freight has several really inexpensive air compressors like this one for $50 plus maybe $10 for a hose and air nozzle.

It could also be that the thermal compound between the CPU and heat sink has broken down and needs to be replaced.

Steve Mann wrote on 8/8/2010, 2:08 PM

You may want to put a larger heat sink on your CPU. Vegas is very processor intensive, ans sudden shutdowns during a render are almost always due to overheating. I don't recall the name but there's a freeware program that calculates primes. It is even more intensive on the processor.