HD videos to DVD?

melnevans wrote on 9/17/2010, 4:28 PM
Hi there! I`m totally a new beginner in editing videos using sony vegas. We just bought Sony vegas HD 10 platinum suite so we can create a quality movie using Sony HDR-XR350VE handycam.

My question is, can we make a dvd out of HD clips using the software and pls tell me how.

Are all HD video clips of .mts files should only be compatible with blueray.

I tried to preview mts files in sonyvegas hd10 but the movements can be slow or jerky.

Pls help me since i want to make a movie for my daughter.

Looking forward for your help

kind regards,mel




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Chienworks wrote on 9/17/2010, 7:35 PM
A regular DVD that can be played in any DVD player? Pretty simple. Render to MPEG2 using the DVD Architect widescreen template. This will give you a .mpg file containing the video. Render again to AC3 using the Stereo DVD template to create an audio file. Make sure you use the same filename for both the .mpg and .ac3 files.

Now switch to DVD Architect and set the properties for a Widescreen DVD. Drag the .mpg into the layout window. At this point you can select prepare & burn in and you will get a simple DVD with a single button to play the video.

If you want to get fancier you can add chapters and menus. You might want to try just the simple stuff first so you can see how everything flows.
richard-amirault wrote on 9/18/2010, 5:08 PM
Yes, but understand .. while widescreen it will not be HD .. a DVD, by definition, is SD.
melnevans wrote on 9/20/2010, 2:52 PM
Thanks very much for your help.

Do you know what`s the difference of stereo and 5.1 surround audio?

When i clicked new project, it gives me an option to choose what kind of audio- stereo or 5.1 surround ?

I appreciate it very much.

Kind regards,melissa




MSmart wrote on 9/20/2010, 4:44 PM
Your handycam doesn't record 5.1 audio so just use stereo.

5.1 audio is described HERE

"The term "5.1" refers to the number of channels in the most common of today’s surround-sound configurations. The "5" refers to the five main channels – left front, center front, right front, left surround and right surround – while the ".1" refers to the low frequency effects channel, also known as LFE."
Chienworks wrote on 9/20/2010, 5:17 PM
Or, more commonly, as the "subwoofer".
BobWard wrote on 9/20/2010, 10:04 PM
Chienworks,

You made a similar recommendation to me regarding the best way to render to a DVD.

However, in VMS 10 HD, when I select "File/Render As", I see the mpeg-2 and AC3 file formats as options. However, under the Template menu, I do not see "DVD Architect" or the "Stereo DVD" options.

Have I mis-interpreted something?

Bob
Chienworks wrote on 9/21/2010, 4:12 AM
Well, i have the Pro version, not the Studio version, so i probably have a few options that you won't see. However, you should at least have the DVD Architect and Stereo DVD templates. Here's what i see on my screen when i pull down the MPEG2 template menu:

MPEG2 templates

and for the AC3 template menu:

AC3 templates
BobWard wrote on 9/21/2010, 12:06 PM
Chienworks,

I don't know what I did wrong the first time, but I tried again and, yes, the templates you refer to are there.

Since I am rendering digitally converted 1950s 8 mm movies (not a wide screen image) would "DVD Architect NTSC video stream" be the template to use for the mpeg2 rendering?

Also, having never rendered a project before, why do we have to render twice, i.e., to mpeg2 and AC3? Why would not one render operation do both video and audio?

Bob
Chienworks wrote on 9/21/2010, 12:45 PM
Ah, well, the widescreen advice was for melnevans who is downconverting from widescreen HD. Obviously you would use whichever choice is more appropriate for you.

Why render twice? 'Cause that's what works best for Vegas -> DVD Architect. DVD Architect expects video in a .mpg file and audio in a .ac3 file. You can certainly render both together in a single file, but then DVD Architect will go to all the trouble of splitting them out separately before, well ... stuffing them back together again. If you want to understand the reasons better you'll have to ask the programmers.
melnevans wrote on 9/21/2010, 3:26 PM
Hi there,

I still don`t get it clearly what you said about rendering to mpeg file. I`m using sony vegas hd 10 platinum suite. I have an HD camera and took some hd video clips. When i download my video clips to the computer, they are all in .m2ts files. When i preview the videos in svm10, they are all clear and very good quality in m2ts file.However, when i put the video clip to the timeline and play it, the video turned a little bit blurry, grainy and can be slow in motion.

I just want to edit videos and make a good quality movie that can be played in any dvd player, or can be view thru email or youtube.

You said in order to make a dvd , i should make the video to mpeg, is that correct?If so, how i should i do it .

You mention DVD Architect. Where can i find it. I appreciate very much your help.

Kind regards,
melissa
BobWard wrote on 9/21/2010, 3:58 PM
melisssa,

DVD Architect Studio 5.0 comes with Sony Vegas Movie Studio HD 10 Platinum Suite. Look at the little manual that came in the box with your software - you will see serial numbers for VMS as well as DVD Architect Studio, Sound Forge Audio Studio, and Vocal Eraser.

The programs should be on your Install CD. Just install them and enter the serial numbers (when prompted) that are listed in the little manual.
BobWard wrote on 9/21/2010, 4:18 PM
chienworks,

I am still trying to get a good grasp of this rendering process in VMS vs DVD Architect.

In VMS,when using the Make Movie command to make a DVD, I am only asked for a path to the video file and the audio file. Then it proceeds to do the rendering. So am I correct in assuming that VMS is automatically creating the mpeg2 and AC3 files as part of this process?

Now, if I want to do something fancy, like adding chapters, etc., I am guessing that I need to use DVD Architect Studio. So in this case, I render twice in VMS, once to mpeg2 and once to AC3, and then load the mpeg2 file into DVD Architect. How does DVD AS incorporate the AC3 file if we do not load it into DVD AS?

I am guessing a third alternative would be to load the fully rendered DVD file, generated in VMS, into DVD AS and then add chapters, etc. However, I am not sure what this option accomplishes over option 2 above where we loaded the separately rendered mpeg2 and AC3 files into DVD AS.

Bob
Chienworks wrote on 9/21/2010, 9:32 PM
I wouldn't have a clue about "Make Movie". The last time i used the studio version was version 2, and it was called "Video Factory" back then. I couldn't stand the Make Movie wizard button back then and always used File / Render As because it was so much easier and straight forward. The Pro version doesn't even have a Make Movie button.

If you name the MPEG and AC3 files with the same filename, except for the extension of course, DVDA is smart enough to know they go together. Drag the .mpg file into the workspace and DVDA locates the .ac3 file and uses it automatically. If you didn't give them the same name then DVDA will only show the video in the timeline but you can still manually drag the .ac3 file into the audio track and add it that way.

I'm not sure what you mean by a "fully rendered DVD file". How do you see this as different from what you get in option 2?
TOG62 wrote on 9/21/2010, 11:29 PM
In VMS,when using the Make Movie command to make a DVD, I am only asked for a path to the video file and the audio file. Then it proceeds to do the rendering. So am I correct in assuming that VMS is automatically creating the mpeg2 and AC3 files as part of this process?

Yes
BobWard wrote on 9/22/2010, 8:48 AM
Chienworks,

"I'm not sure what you mean by a "fully rendered DVD file". How do you see this as different from what you get in option 2?"

What I meant by this was if I renedered straight to DVD within VMS. Could I not then copy that DVD into DVD Architect and add chapters, etc., and then burn a new DVD?

Bob
Chienworks wrote on 9/22/2010, 11:29 AM
Ummmm, why would you do that? It would be more time consuming than the method we've been describing and you would risk DVD A wanting to re-encode the already compressed output.
BobWard wrote on 9/22/2010, 1:30 PM
Just exploring options in an effort to fully understand how these programs inter-act.

For experimentation & learning purposes, I will try the following 2 options and see if there is any difference in the final product

1. Burn directly to DVD within VMS

2. Prepare the mpeg2 and AC3 files from VMS and then load those into DVD AS (as you suggested) and burn a DVD.

Bob
melnevans wrote on 9/22/2010, 2:27 PM
Hi Bob,

Is it possible to create a dvd with .m2ts files. Will you pls help me how can i do it in svm 10 platinum suite or with other related software include in the package.

I have installed all the software included in the package.

Right now, we have Sony HD camcorder for taking very good video clips. My problem is , when i put the video clips in the timeline and play it, the video is grainy, blurry, and the motion can be slow. However, if i just preview it it`s in good quality.



BobWard wrote on 9/23/2010, 3:08 PM
melissa,

I am a novice at this program myself. Just bought it a month ago and am still learning how to use it. I have not worked with m2ts files, so I am not much help with your request.

I am sure one of the more experienced users will drop by shortly to give you some tips.

Hopefully, you also found the DVD Architect and Sound Forge programs on your disk. That was quite a good deal to get those with VMS 10.

Bob
melnevans wrote on 9/23/2010, 3:42 PM
Thanks Bob . I appreciate your help. Yes i have installed and have looked the other 2 softwares included in the package. I like sony vegas better than adobe premier.
MSmart wrote on 9/23/2010, 4:24 PM
@melnevans, if you bought the Production Suite version, you should have gotten a video DVD with lots of good tutorials. It's highly recommended that you watch them. The Help > Show Me How tutorials are also worth going through.
Stringer wrote on 9/24/2010, 9:39 AM
Regarding the slow and jerky preview..


What are the specs of your computer ? processor type/speed & etc..

It takes a lot of processor power to view .m2ts in real time, and they do have to be rendered out to .mpg to create a DVD ..
Set your preview to as low quality as possible for previewing and editing.

If your camera has an SD setting, you might find the resulting output to be acceptable, and easier to work with in Movie Studio.

Once you render it out for making a DVD, the final product will look fine ( as good as it gets for non professional work ) on your display device when played with a DVD player..

melnevans wrote on 9/24/2010, 2:29 PM
I created a dvd in dvd architect , dragged the m2ts video file to the dvd menu and when i viewed it in the TV screen - it was very good quality. the video was taken in a HD setting of my camera Sony HDR- XR350.I think the jerky and slow motion that i mentioned before was caused by my computer`s processor type or speed or maybe because i don`t have much space?. That`s why i created a dvd to see the output in the TV screen. It is actually good quality because it`s raw and unedited just as i view it in PMB or in my camera.

However, when i click on make a movie in SVM 10 and put together 2 different m2ts video clips and i edited them, the output is poor-very blurry , grainy and jerky . The movie file is an mpg file .

I experimented video clips on an SD setting as well and it resulted the same. All video clips in my camera in SD setting are all mpeg files.

I tried to experiment my avi video clips as well from portable cannon digital camera. The quality doesn`t look good as well in mpg file.

What do you think i`m missing here..

I tried to make a dvd ouptut in PAL and widescreen movie file mpg, audio sterio .





musicvid10 wrote on 9/24/2010, 5:15 PM
Don't use "Make Movie."
Learn how to use File->Render As, with various formats, codecs, templates, and custom settings. Practice.