In the original build of V16 Pro I could export an HEVC file, using Aces colour and Rec 2020 colours, via a USB stick. My HDR TV recognised it as an HDR file but did not display it as an HDR picture. Vegas support told me this would be fixed in "the next update". Will this workflow now work successfully following the latest update ?
There may well be somebody on this forum who applies the process that you describe, but the best way to see if the problem you have encountered has been fixed is to install VP16 b307 and test it yourself … and then let the forum know.
If unhappy with b307, then uninstall and re-install your preferred build.
BTW, b307 is the 2nd update since the original VP16 build.
In the original build of V16 Pro I could export an HEVC file, using Aces colour and Rec 2020 colours, via a USB stick. My HDR TV recognised it as an HDR file but did not display it as an HDR picture. Vegas support told me this would be fixed in "the next update". Will this workflow now work successfully following the latest update ?
The HEVC Export supports HDR metadata - since the first release. Typically that is enough and allows the HDR TV to recognize a file as HDR. Here for example it works fine with a Sony A8. So I think there is nothing that will be changed here from side of the development Team.
What HDR TV do you use? How can it be that it is recognized as HDR, but that the HDR-TV does not Show an HDR Picture? Francly spoken, how do you recognize that?
Iv'e successfully edited several HDR videos in Vegas 16. Here's a few for example:
Wolfgang. Thanks for the response. It is 2017 Samsung HDR TV.(1000nit) When I start to play the file it comes up with an HDR flag. In Pro 16 it covers 0 to 6/700 nits on the waveform but when I play it back on the tv it is very unsaturated and lacking in contrast. I am using 10 bit Sony Slog3 Cine footage, Aces 1.0 Acescc and Rec2020/ST2084 HEVC preset to render the file. Am I using a wrong setting somewhere.? The same footage rendered in SDR is fine. MAGIX support (Kimberley N.) is now advising me that the required change didn't make this Update and is backlogged for the next one.
My HDR project settings:
32 bit full range
Rec2020 on the view transform (I've noticed using ST2084 1000 nits transform limits levels to lower than HDR spec)
Adjust scopes to read 10 bit nit scale
grade until it until levels are where I want them
render out using the HDR HEVC preset, untouched.
Pull up those videos I posted on your TV (best way to make sure HDR flags is to use TV's internal youtube app) and see if they display the same way as yours is. If you need me to send you the original HEVC files, I don't mind.
frOsty, Thanks very much for your comments. I watched the Water Fest video on the TV and it was really excellent. I then changed my settings to Rec2020 (without ST2084 1000) used the HDR HEVC preset. The resultant file produced a really good picture. So I think, with your help I have made a lot of progress. I now need to shoot some deliberately HDR images ( with some specular highlights ?) and see how I get on. If I now can produce a valid HDR workflow I just need to save up for an HDR monitor and learn how to grade it. Thanks a lot.
Be aware that the setting rec2020 (without the 1000 nits) will force you to bring down the levels below 700 or 800 nits for your OLED. THAT is easier to use rec2020 with 1000 nits.
So far the results have turned out better without the 1k nits option enabled, but I do see your point.
Stewart, also make sure you have a display adapter that Vegas can use to display 10 bit video. Your run of the mill GeForce or Radeon cards cannot do it, you need the radeon pro or Quaddro cards to actually see 10 bit out of your device. I think you can also see 10 bit if you use a blackmagic decklink 4k card, it too can output 10 bit, but not over HDMI. The BlackMagic Mini-Monitor can actually flag your TV into HDR mode, but it isn't supported in Vegas yet.
Thanks for that. Yes I need to spec a whole new computer as well, including graphics ability to output HDR10 to any new monitor. Who would think 3 letters could end up costing so much !!!!
Thanks for that. Yes I need to spec a whole new computer as well, including graphics ability to output HDR10 to any new monitor. Who would think 3 letters could end up costing so much !!!!
The Radeon Pro cards seem to give the most bang for the buck when it comes to the 10 bit capable cards that work with Vegas, and being that it is Radeon, it tends to perform better with Vegas than the Nvidia cards do as well. Even a lower end ($400-500) Radeon Pro card should do just fine in Vegas. As for CPU, I've had great luck with the AMD Ryzen series... again, amazing bang for the buck. More so than Intel... a comparable Intel chip might outperfom the Ryzens at single or less than 4 core utilization (the opposite tends to be true at above 4 cores), but not more than 20-30% and they can cost as much as 2x as much for that 20-30%.