HDV Render Work flow

OhMyGosh wrote on 6/10/2008, 10:57 PM

I know, I know, it's been covered a hundred times. I thought I understood until I tried to do it myself, and then the wheels fell off the wagon! :P I am doing my first HDV project shot with a Canon HV30 camcorder using .m2t files in Vegas (1440X1080X32 29.970fps). I thought I better try a ten second test first of just a junk clip to make sure it would work correctly. Four hours later.........still waiting! I have tried 'Make Movie' and 'Render As' to no avail. I want my final destination to be a standard DVD 4:3 720X480 (I will save the project as is, so that some day if I get a wide screen or high def TV, I can render in a more user friendly format). Anyway, I go to 'Make Movie'> it wants to save video as MPEG2, and audio as AC3>then it asks if I want to go to DVDA and I say 'yes'. From there I try and 'Make DVD' without doing a single thing to it> it says the usual about burning lead in and what not, but won't go any farther (for hours!). I also tried 'Render As', but not to sure if I would be better trying to render as MPEG2 (afraid it would get double rendered that way.......not sure if it has the 'smart rendering' ability or not) and then bring it into DVDA, or save as .avi or .wmv and bring it in. I want the best possible results (duh!) under these circumstances. If someone could help explain where I'm going wrong, or point me to the right thread, I would appreciate it very much. Thank you. Cin

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Ivan Lietaert wrote on 6/11/2008, 6:43 AM

I can't help you with the hd aspect of the thing.
But I know that if you rendered to mpeg2 correctly, DVDA will not re-render.

Eugenia wrote on 6/11/2008, 11:25 AM

Try to export manually at mpeg2 DVD and AC3 and don't use the wizard thing. Then, manually bring those into DVDA. It should work...

OhMyGosh wrote on 6/12/2008, 8:13 AM

Thanks Ivan for the information on whether it would rerender. Glad to hear it, as once is enough :)
Thank you as well Eugenia, but I want to make sure I understand exactly what to do. I go to 'Render As'>I then go to 'Save as type:' and choose 'MainConcept MPEG-2'>underneath that is 'Template:' and then I don't know whether to choose 'DVD Architect NTSC video stream', 'DVD NTSC', or 'DVD NTSC video stream'. I am not sure what the difference is between them, and then which one I should use if I am importing into DVDA. If I were to guess, I would say choice number 1, but I'm usually not a very good guesser ;) Thanks again for the help. Cin

Eugenia wrote on 6/12/2008, 11:13 AM

DVDA NTSC *Widescreen* video stream.

OhMyGosh wrote on 6/12/2008, 2:59 PM

Thanks for the reply Eugenia. Since I want my final project to be 4:3, I would render from Vegas 16:9 (widescreen), and then output from DVDA to 4:3 instead of shrinking it directly from Vegas to 4:3? Thanks again. Cin

Eugenia wrote on 6/12/2008, 3:47 PM

Shrink it directly on Vegas. Select in that case the 4:3 DVDA option and make sure that you tell Vegas to use letterboxing in the exporting dialog (uncheck that checkbox).

OhMyGosh wrote on 6/13/2008, 10:46 AM

Thanks for the help, I finally got it to work :) Just a couple of other questions though, 1. I filmed black lettering on a white building and when I watch it frame by frame on my 10 year old TV I see some sort of vertical movement within the text. It appears to be some sort of interlacing, but I thought the TV is supposed to deinterlace the video. 2. What would happen if I rendered it to progressive so the TV wouldn't have to do it? Would that help, or would my TV not even recognize the progressive format? 3. Full HD is 1920X1080, the 1080 is horizontal lines of resolution, are there really vertical lines of resolution (1920)? 4. Last but not least, since my native video is 1440X1080, what happens on a 1920X1080 screen to the 1440. Is it letter boxed or stretched or.........Thanks for the help and patience. Cin

Eugenia wrote on 6/13/2008, 12:55 PM

1. Yes, interlaced material will look like this. Even on the best TV out there. Although not all de-interlacers were born equal.

2. It might help, I don't know what your TV does.

3. On full HD TVs, it's resolution.

4. It is stretched. That's why the aspect ratio is 1.333 for 1440 and 1.000 for 1920. 1440*1.333=1920.

And buy yourself a 32" 1080i LCD HDTV. Make sure it has HDMI input(s). They go for $500.

OhMyGosh wrote on 6/14/2008, 8:43 AM

Got it :) Thanks again for your knowledge and patience. Cin