Help! New computer/hardware recommendations?

fisheye wrote on 3/19/2003, 6:51 PM
I'm sold on merits of V4, now I need help with new computer purchase. (Currently using 966mhz laptop.) Considering 2.53ghz Gateway w/2 drives, 1024 333mhz SDRAM, soundblaster, DVD writer etc. Current goal is to edit Sony PD 150 footage of wildlife shot in San Juan Islands into marketable VHS/DVD production. Sound and video quality is important. Want to stay under $2500 budget. I am ignorant about hardware, so would appreciate any and all imputs.

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BillyBoy wrote on 3/19/2003, 7:04 PM
Vegas has only modest demands. Video card, audio card, irrelevant, pick those that suite your needs for what ELSE you're going to use your computer for. Memeory wise 512 MB should be plenty. Anything beyond 1GB is overkill. Avoid deals that have bundled video anything... unless its Vegas. :-) The one issue is render times. For me it doesn't really matter. Once I'm done with a project I dump it on another machine. The faster your CPU speed the shorter the render times. If you're going to burn DVD's, you don't need a CD burner or CD disk. The DVD writer will take care of it all. Assuming you have a digital camera, you'll need a firewire card. Cheap add on shouldn't cost more than $30 or so.
fisheye wrote on 3/19/2003, 7:23 PM
So, BillyBoy, do you recommend buying a faster CPU at the expense of less Ram? The soundblaster card apparently also functions as a 1394 capture card. I agree I don't want bundled anything other than Sonic software. Also is n't a CD drive necessary for loading software, or can the DVD drive do that? Thanks for your response.
ibliss wrote on 3/19/2003, 7:38 PM
The DVD drive will read CDs fine, so you can load your software from that.

Although you will probably be fine with the soundblaster, I really would recommend against it. Get a cheap firewire card (Billyboy's price estimate is a good indication of the MOST you should have to pay for one). For a sound card look at something like the Echo Mia or M-Audio Delta card. If 5.1 mixing is important to you, you will need a multichannel card - maybe the new M-audio 7.1 card ($99?), or the terratec DMX fire. Bear in mind you will obviously need an appropriate amp/speaker set up to deal with the six discreet audio channels.

512MB should be fine, but consider it a minimum. It won't hurt to have 1GB, but you won't lose sleep without it! Not to up to date on CPU cost, but possibly you could stretch to a 2.8 P4 with the money saved? This would probably be of more benifit in terms of render times and inproving the overall responsiveness of Vegas.
defucius wrote on 3/19/2003, 9:35 PM
The difference between a 2.53 and 2.8 P4 would be hardly noticeable. A 3.06 P4 would show a noticeable improvement, but it is too expensive.

I would recommend you stay with 2.53, or even a 2.4, as long as it's got a 533 MHz front side bus. Is the 333 MHz memory the fastest Gateway offering? Go with the fastest, and buy what you can afford. You never know how memory hungry your other programs can get.

BillyBoy and ibliss are correct, Vegas does not require high end video and sound card. I would stay away from soundblaster as well. They have very unstable drivers. Last time I checked their card with firewire port, I could not tell if their firewire implementation was OHCI compliant, which is required by Vegas, I believe.
BillyBoy wrote on 3/19/2003, 10:05 PM
Priority wise I would rank the CPU speed as the highest IF waiting long times for rendering bugs you. If not, no need really. My aging 1.6 CPU is plenty fast for me an avrage about 8 to 1 for rending to AVI. As others said I wouldn't go for the fastest chip because that's always a premium price for only a tad more speed, but do get the fastest chip your budget allows. Next to that I would get at least one BIG drive. You never have enough hard drive space when you're doing video editing. Also consider using removable drawers. I've gone that route for years now and really like it. I don't know, I lost count I think combined I got something like 700 GB or so storage.
stusy wrote on 3/19/2003, 10:19 PM
With the setup I got, and keeping 98SE, I'll look to upgrade my CPU eventually, my mem is fine, and I can look to future upgrades of my SOFO prods(and updates to what I have now)...prolly AMD all the way tho...hey, my crappy ol' Emagic AW2 is OK also, at least for what I do...
kirkdickinson wrote on 3/19/2003, 11:14 PM
I just built a new system for video editing / photoshop.

Here is what I put together:

SuperMicro X5DA8

Dual 2.4 Gig Xeon's

1 Gig ECC registered DDR (this mobo can hold 12 GIG)

Enclosed in a Super Micro Full Server Tower

Sony DRU-500AX

Cheapo Maxtor Firewire Card

Windows XP Pro

Right now, I am running a 20 gig Ultra SCSI 160 drive for my OS drive and a WD 80 Gig IDE drive for storage until I can afford to go all SCSI. Can't buy it all at the same time. I am also running an old Matrox G-400 video card until I can decide and afford a different/new one.

I know this system may be an overkill for Vegas, but it is ROCK SOLID STABLE. Here is a thread about how the system does: http://www.sonicfoundry.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=160497

Kirk