Help with green screen anyone?

Led00 wrote on 5/27/2025, 7:05 AM

Hello community,

I am a video editing hobbyist, very basic knowledge. I have recorded myself playing in front of a green screen because I was willing to see what are the possibilities with it. I twerked with some chroma plug ins but didn't get satisfactory results. Is there anyone on this community who would help me in a particular way:

I would send you a 10 seconds sample of a video, you remove green screen and place some random background of a music studio or something like that, do whatever you think is necessary for color correction etc.

In this way, I would be able to see what is possible to do with the sample and where I am currently.

Thank you in advance.

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jetdv wrote on 5/27/2025, 7:55 AM

You might test the NewBlue Chroma Keyer which, I've found, gives better results than the built-in Chroma Keyer.

https://newbluefx.com/chroma-key-pro/

onlyway wrote on 5/27/2025, 9:31 AM

please send your vegas pro version info & a sample of a video to my e-mail : onlwaykr@naver.com

Vdanny wrote on 5/27/2025, 7:43 PM

Hi @Led00 ,

Could you let us know the camera you are using and we can see if it records in 10bit colour (which can help)? Be sure that you are not standing too close to the green screen which can result in background colour "spill" in which reflected light is cast upon your subject resulting in an ugly key. Make sure the background is lit as evenly as possible and use a separate light on the subject if you have one. As jetdv mentions, the NewBlue keyer can give superior results and has a rudimentary masker to minimize the amount of the image you need to key out.

RogerS wrote on 5/27/2025, 10:31 PM

I've used color corrector secondary for this which lets you precisely select the greens you want to remove.

Led00 wrote on 5/28/2025, 5:37 AM

Hey Community,

First of all, thank you all for reaching out, I am glad I can get the help :)

Before recording in front of green screen I have done research as best as I could. So I did use two seperate lights for green screen and two for the subject and also am using Chroma Key Pro. All in all, I have reached the top of what I can do and from this point I am searching for someone who can do it better than me just so I can see how good can it look if I know what to click :)

RogerS wrote on 5/28/2025, 6:16 AM

What if you just post a link to the footage here?

RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 5/28/2025, 12:13 PM

I understand at this point you're asking for someone to help turn-key to show you the best might look given what you've shot already, and you don't want to mess with it anymore -- ya?

While I don't have time to invest in that level of hands-on for the next month (sorry!), I'll throw in my hat for BCC Primatte Studio (part of Continuum suite) -- that thing has done an incredible job for some of my more difficult keys (excessive shadowing on the screen)

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RedRob-CandlelightProdctns wrote on 5/28/2025, 12:15 PM

I 2nd what @RogerS wrote above -- upload your 10-second video somewhere (private/unlisted is fine) so ppl here can download and take a crack at it. I've found very helpful ppl here who are often up for a nice challenge, and pretty darned skilled!

 

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Led00 wrote on 5/28/2025, 2:04 PM

Once again, thanks to all who are helping me :)

Here is a drive link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Syfhm8KjfPL0JCR6SP0svj4p3ld-A4RL/view?usp=drive_link

My goal is for the subject to be almost completely dark (therefore I am in black) and only my hands and guitar to be highlighted.

In the background i would use either total black or blurred photo of music studio that will also be very dark...

Gid wrote on 5/28/2025, 2:11 PM

@Led00 Hi, you need to change the Access in Google to 'Anyone with this link'

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jetdv wrote on 5/28/2025, 2:18 PM

These settings seemed to work great for me:

All I changed was the color and color range. Seems a very solid key on this segment.

Using the same "color" in the built-in VEGAS Chroma key you can get a fairly good key by changing both the lower and upper limits but it's not anywhere as solid as Chroma Key Pro. Sometimes the background would show through on the neck of the guitar.

I just added the "yellow" background to be able to clearly see the key (hard to see black on a black background.)

Led00 wrote on 5/28/2025, 2:27 PM

The problem I am trying to solve is observable when you look at those white "tuning pegs" on the head of the guitar. There are a lot of flickers which I cannot seem to resolve. The same happened with @jetdv settings.

jetdv wrote on 5/28/2025, 2:31 PM

I'm not seeing that. What do the "flickers" look like? I even zoomed in on the top of the neck to see that section more clearly.

I am seeing some moire patterns due to the strings.

Gid wrote on 5/28/2025, 3:41 PM

@Led00 I see the flicker on the edge of the upper pegs, the chrome keys are reflecting the green with a bit of spill & edge blur also. I think that is more about lighting, focus & camera quality rather than the keyer itself.

Vegas's Chroma Keyer gives quite a good job but I second @RedRob-CandlelightProdctns suggestion of Primatte Studio, it is a far better keyer.

This is Primatte, I zoom in at the end, there's still some shimmering around the edge but if you look at your fingers next to it they've fairly crisp edges, you can see the green on the curved head neck, lower part of the head & lower keys, I tried to key that back in the best I could. (Primatte has multiple options for removing 'noise & spill' from the background or foreground, also edge options, pic below), Like I say i think this is about reflection...

Green screen is better with a back light if you haven't got one, this helps with that green edge you can get by lighting that area but t also interrupts green reflecting from the background.

PS. Primatte has built in Mocha masking & tracking so unkeyable areas can be excluded

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Reyfox wrote on 5/28/2025, 3:56 PM

Boris FX Primatte Studio using only Auto Analyze. @Gid what version do you have? I have 9.1850

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Gid wrote on 5/28/2025, 4:54 PM

@Reyfox 9.1754, I haven't upgraded recently. I hardly did any adjustment on that video above, & the one below I've done nothing but Auto Analyze, if I zoom in like i have done above there's a little bit of shimmering but not much, (There's a good chance i made the one above worse by adding the bright yellow background & light wrap... 🤦‍♂️😂)

These are all just with Auto Analyze, no further adjustment.

 

 

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Reyfox wrote on 5/28/2025, 4:57 PM

Boris just released 2025.5. As always, a nice release. But the price has gone up. Still, for what you get with it, it is an amazing kit.

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Gid wrote on 5/28/2025, 5:02 PM

@Reyfox 👍

How does yours treat the CPU/GPU ?. I've got no integrated graphics but it still uses my CPU more than my GPU.

This was with Auto Analyze only.

But the first video that did have a little adjustment ..

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Gid wrote on 5/28/2025, 6:00 PM

@Led00 This is NewBlue Chroma Key Pro, it's pretty good but for the price I'd go with Boris Continuum (Primatte Studio) , if nothing else the majority of Boris fxs inc Mocha masking/tracking.

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Led00 wrote on 5/29/2025, 2:02 AM

Wow, guys, good work!

@Gid can you tell me the settings you used for NewBlue?

When I bought Vegas Pro 20, did I get license for Boris..?

Gid wrote on 5/29/2025, 2:42 AM

@Led00 Sorry I didn't keep the settings, to be honest I didn't spend a lot of time on it.

I just dragged in a Green Key preset I'd made at some point & played with the Sensitivity, Colour Range & added a bit of Feather.


 

 

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jetdv wrote on 5/29/2025, 7:12 AM

@Led00 Try these settings in Chroma Key Pro:

MikeS wrote on 5/29/2025, 9:00 AM

Once again, thanks to all who are helping me :)

Here is a drive link:

My goal is for the subject to be almost completely dark (therefore I am in black) and only my hands and guitar to be highlighted.

In the background i would use either total black or blurred photo of music studio that will also be very dark...

I'll second/third all the advice about Primatte Studio. This is the result I got with just 20 to 30 seconds work

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Reyfox wrote on 5/29/2025, 9:31 AM

@Gid, a little off topic.... with Primatte, it rendered complete at 25fps. The CPU was used much more than the GPU. CPU 85%, GPU 38%. Using Vegas Chroma, what a difference in rendering speed. Average speed was 69fps, with GPU used between 99-100% and CPU was 51%.

Ignite Pro rendered about the same as Primatte albeit slower, but also with a very slight "shimmer" on the upper tuning pegs.

NBFX Chroma Keyer Pro gave even better results than the others with hardly any tweaking on my part. Yes, I am a bit lazy. The CPU was used about 32% while the GPU was 64%. All rendering for all examples was done with AMD VCE to leverage GPU rendering. NBFX also rendered pretty fast, averaging 40fps.

There is a difference between the Vegas and Primatte rendered videos. The top tuning pegs "shimmered" a lot more with Vegas, and there was nothing I could do to get rid of it. NBFX was slightly better than Primatte, but again, I did basically no tweaking.

So my suggestion for @Led00, if you already have NBFX Chroma Keyer Pro, use it!

Video for Chroma Keyer Pro.

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