HiDef DVD Player

farss wrote on 1/17/2005, 7:35 PM
If anyones interested:
http://www.neodigits.com/body/product/HVD108/feature.asp
There's a USD 50 discount on offer as well, enter "NDBACLWWS".

I'd look at this unit before but as I only thought it had an upscaler built in gave it a miss, however looking again I see it'll play out 720p encoded DVDs and they have a number of titles encoded that way on offer.

Beyond this I no nothin', least of all how to make such a DVD myself, I'm certain DVDA would have a dummy spit if I tried although all these DVD players will play a file straight off a DVD so that maybe one way. Just thought it might be of some use if anyone was after something cheap for running corp vids onto a plasma etc.

Oh, and I have bought one item from these guys and it does work well and they do ship quick. Documentation is in good Chinglish.

Bob.

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craftech wrote on 1/18/2005, 6:33 AM
Here are some reviews:
Here
Here
Here
Here

John
B_JM wrote on 1/18/2005, 6:47 AM
the HVD (not HDV) this player uses is going to be a dead format really - it never took off except in a limited way (very limited way) in some parts of asia ..

this is not a new player ...

WMV HD and DiVX HD are going to be more main stream on dvd players and of course blu-ray ..


even rumors are now about that DL media may be just about dead due to cost of production - the cost is not going to drop soon anyway ..
Xander wrote on 1/18/2005, 7:32 AM
I bought a AVeL LinkPlayer for the interim. I just burn 19 MBit/s 1080i MPEG-2 (Vegas profile) files to a blank DVD-R and they play straight off there without any issues. There are no fancy menus, etc. It also support WMV9 HD and DIVX HD and can play off Harddisk too. Output can be configured as 480i/480p/720p/1080i.

See link:
http://www.iodata.com/products/products.php?cat=HNP&sc=AVEL&pId=AVLP2%2FDVDLA&ts=2&tsc=
Avanti wrote on 1/18/2005, 12:04 PM
I've been using an HD 720p/ 1080i output DVD player for the last 18 months now with my Sony HDTV. The DVD player is a Samsung HD931 and it has a DVI output that the NeuNeo doesn't have. It also has component output, but the DVI output has better blacks. It works great, and I figure it will hold me until the Blueray or the next real HD DVD's get here about 2006.
B_JM wrote on 1/18/2005, 1:09 PM
i have a samsung 931 also -- it does upscaling, the one mentioned in the post above plays HD natively stored on the disk

BillyBoy wrote on 1/18/2005, 1:46 PM
The catch 22 is HOW GOOD is upscaling? If the media is encoded with HD material fine, but how does it handle regular DVD's?, Isn't just really just smoke and mirrors then?

Someone PLEASE correct me where/if I got this wrong:

I'm assuming that unless the DVD itself is true HD (1080i) then all the HD DVD player is doing is doubling the horizontal scan lines by sending twice as many lines to your TV or monitor. So (I remember reading something along these lines) instead of sending lines 1,3, 5, 7, then going back and filling it line 2,4,6,8 it sends two of each or 11,33,55,77 then backfills with 22,44,66,88, etc.. The "benefit" is your eyes preceive a sharper image because instead of 30 passes a second its making 60. If done at a high enough refresh rate so you don't detect flicker, great, otherwise, not good.

farss wrote on 1/18/2005, 1:56 PM
I read thru all the reviews and no comment on how it looks playing 720p HVDs.
But yes I agree with what B_JM is saying, it's only using mpeg-2 which is kind of dated and there are players now that'll play native 1080 WMV 9.
Bob.
farss wrote on 1/18/2005, 2:02 PM
For sure there's no way to put back what was lost. There's possibly some perceived improvement, most high end projectors do a similar trick which is why running even SD thru them doesn't look too sad. Also there's some TVs that run the image at 100Hz which is visually more pleasing.
Don't forget it will play out 720p mpeg-2, I know how to encode that, don't have a clue how to author that kind of DVD though.
Still for USD 149 it's not exactly expensive and there are a few titles available.
Probably the biggest issue I can see is not having DVI outputs.
Bob.
OdieInAz wrote on 1/18/2005, 2:38 PM
How good is upscaling? I haven't seen, but from what I've read the best ones use a Faroudja chip to handle the conversions. Seems much more than just line doubling. Pretty impressive sounding stuff in the product brief.

http://gnss.com/products/C0702-PBR-01B.PDF