Highlighted Text Looks Awful

2G wrote on 12/18/2004, 6:45 PM
I am using "text mask overlay" for some menu items. I have a dark blue font color for normal non-highlighted text. I have a black drop shadow on the text. Here's the problem... when the text is highlighted and/or selected, it looks horrible, no matter how I play around with the anti-aliasing colors, etc. For instance, if I want a yellow highlight color, when the text is highlighted, it is blue and yellow salt and peppered, literally blue pixels and yellow pixels in random patterns. It looks like I put a noise filter on the text. It changes from a smooth clear font to a horrible distortion of intermixed colors.

I am running 2.0b.

Am I doing something wrong? Is anyone else seeing this? I'm embarrassed to give this to a client it looks so bad.

I'm using a font called "Beautiful ES" It's a very elegant script font. Not sure if that makes much difference.

Suggestions?

Thanks.

2G

Comments

Jason37 wrote on 12/19/2004, 3:32 PM
Are you viewing it only on your PC? If so I've noticed the project text never looks as good on the PC as it does once it is burned. I just finished a project and it looked kind of jerky or choppy. But once it was done and burned on the DVD it was smooth.
eternalperspectiv wrote on 12/24/2004, 6:48 AM
Hello-

I suspect the reason you didn't get alot of responses is because that's just the way it is with DVD Architect highlighting. I'm going to investigate making hover buttons in another software and then importing them into DVD Architect. If I'm sucessfull, I'll let you know.

God Bless you.

Patrick
2G wrote on 12/24/2004, 1:39 PM
Patrick,

II guess I kinda figured that was the case. But if everybody just accepts it as "that's the way DVDA does it", then the rest of world has different view of acceptability than I do.

Here is a jpg of the menu:

http://www.2ndgenerationproductions.com/dvda-menu.jpg

There are two menu items. One is highlighted. Crazy me, but I would expect clean yellow text for the highlight.

Can one person honestly tell me they would give this menu to a customer who is paying between $1500 and $2000 for a wedding video????? If so, then sorry. I have different standards. If not, then obviously there is some way to prevent it and I'm too stupid to figure it out.

But I think it's pathetic that we even need to have these conversations about this kind of trashy appearance. This isn't Pinnacle Studio purchased at Fry's with a rebate for $39.99. This is supposedly professional software that definitely has a professional price used by professional videographers whose success is dependent upon reliable software from Sony. It defies me how many people on this forum say "that's just how Vegas or DVDA works". I have been in software development for 28 years. If I had problems like this in software I'm responsible for and I told a customer to just get over it, I'd be seeking employment elsewhere. This is either a serious bug, or at a minimum, a serious usability problem if I'm doing something wrong and can't figure out how to do it right.

Step up to it Sony!!!! It's either working as designed or it's a bug that needs to fixed. Which is it?

2G
ScottW wrote on 12/24/2004, 3:13 PM
I don't think you've done enough playing with the color set settings.

The picture you provided looks a lot like you've not increased the transparency enough on your outline/background color. You should also try adjusting the transparency on your fill color and try applying a little blur (this can help a lot).
farss wrote on 12/25/2004, 7:18 PM
Can I add, if you think it looks bad now wait till it gets to a TV. Quite apart from what's been said you need to be VERY careful about what color combinations you use next to one another. They'll all look just fine on a PC but certain combinations fall apart badly on a TV, this isn't a Vegas issue, it does its best to warn you (those little yellow triangles) but it has no way of knowning what color you're putting it against.
Bob.
2G wrote on 12/26/2004, 8:52 PM
Thanks for the feedback. But this is very frustrating! I don't have time to spend hours attempting to tweak a bunch of different adjustments just to make highlighted menu item text not look like trash. Even the defaults look horrible.

I guess I'm glad the versatility is there for those who care. But I don't care about nuances and overlaying transparencies, etc. I'd be happy with one color text that simply changes to another color when it's selected. Yellow text looks fine when that's the non-selected color. Why can't I just make it change to that yellowwhen it's selected? Why do I need a frigging PhD in color adjustment just to get something that I'm not embarassed to sell?

No matter what I do with alpha and color combinations, I cannot get blue text to change to pure yellow. The blue insists on showing through in blobs like on the jpg.

I must be missing a concept here. But if I select a color for highlighted text and make the alpha channel on that color be 0% transparent, the text should simply change to that color, right??? Nope. What am I missing?

2G

Alan_GuitarGuy wrote on 12/27/2004, 10:03 AM
I've had this problem and think it's unacceptable also. You would think that the defaults would produce a decent highlight.

Any suggestions, Sony?


Alan