I think the hover scrub thing is good. It makes selection in the trimmer slightly easier. Otherwise I find myself often just dropping the events directly on the timeline and editing it from there, which is a little more clumsy way of doing it. But I don't see any good reason for having a buttom for "Insert portion from the cursor" and another button for Insert portion up til cursor". I almost never need that. Most of the time what I need is somewhere in the middle of a clip and a selection with an in and out point and a button to insert that onto the timeline would be what I need.

Or how do you use the trimmer?

Mmh, actually here it does what you ask for and how I think it is meant to work. If I made a selection via hover scrubbing and I press key "A", exactly the selection made is added into the timeline.

Edit:
I see the button and the keystroke work differently and while key "A" works as expected the trimmer button does not. Actually what the trimmer button do (the selection it uses) doesn't make any sense. I think it's a bug. I'll report.

Edit, again:
I think this function is totally screwed. Pressing key "A" sometimes works fine, sometimes it doesn't.

For use the buttons you need to select the loop region.
see 2. picture

Actually it is totally unconsistent. While you needn't select the loop region after hover scrubbing in some cases (and you should not need to do so else this hover scrub selection would be needless), when failing I would expect it would add the whole clip length. But it doesn't. The clip length added sometimes seems to be pure accident.

a little tricky but not inconsistent
always works the same (A and buttons)
sure it would be better, if the selection were automatically done

Mmh, actually here it does what you ask for and how I think it is meant to work. If I made a selection via hover scrubbing and I press key "A", exactly the selection made is added into the timeline.

Edit:
I see the button and the keystroke work differently and while key "A" works as expected the trimmer button does not. Actually what the trimmer button do (the selection it uses) doesn't make any sense. I think it's a bug. I'll report.

Edit, again:
I think this function is totally screwed. Pressing key "A" sometimes works fine, sometimes it doesn't.

Thanks Marco! I never tried the A keystroke before now. It actually works, so far. That is what I was looking for, and if it works I am happy. Sorry to hear it doesn't work all the time though. Good you report it in case it is a bug.

For use the buttons you need to select the loop region.
see 2. picture

 

Quitter, thanks. But there is no mention of that in the Vegas manual, so it must be a bug, right?

I'm familiar with the trimmer functions but this one definetely is inconsistent and doesn't work the way it should here.

I agree, this must be a bug.

In Trimmer I "paint" the area I want and then Right Click and Drag to T/L. Again, what does Hover give me over this?

Always willing to learn.

G

So big difference , I think. Just slightly more intuitive. If the A stroke works...

By the way, what is this icon thing with slices? I see I am on level 3, Grazie on level 6... What does that mean?

Quitter, thanks. But there is no mention of that in the Vegas manual, so it must be a bug, right?

The whole manual is a bug, only copied and a bit added

I see what part of the problem is and this is what Martin described in his first post. When using the trimmer button to add the selected portion into the timeline, it regards the trimmer's cursor position in a certain but strange way.

I have a 10 second clip loaded in the trimmer and made a hover scrub selection of exactly one second. I press "A" and it adds 1 second. Right as it should work. Then I press the trimmer button for same function and it adds 3 seconds and 17 frames.
Then I see when pressing the trimmer button it always adds different lengthes of the loaded clip dependend of where the cursor in the trimmer stays (while the selection still is 1 second).

When hitting key "A" it works fine as long as the mouse cursor is anywhere over the trimmer preview, but once the mouse cursor leaves the trimmer preview even key "A" doesn't work correctly no more.

So when you use the trimmer button the mouse cursor isn't over the trimmer preview no more and this causes the missbehavior which is same as you move the mouse cursor elsewhere when using key "A".
As long as the mouse cursor does not leave the trimmer preview, there is no need to select the region else than you did after hover scrub selecting the region.

To cut a long story short:
The bug is the dependency of the mouse cursor position combined with the trimmer cursor position when adding a selection to the timeline.

Actually, Titler Pro 3 Express not only has titles but also something called "bugs". Should I dare clickin on it or will the bugs infest my PC? 😜

So Marco, have you reported this to Magix? Since it is one of the new prominent features of Vegas 14 it is important that it works correctly. I do like it, if it works.

I don't use the "A" - never have. Paint > Drag > Done!

I never said that it is good, it is far from good
it's just occurred to me that it work (good or not) this way

Yes, I reported this trimmer misbehavior as a bug. I now have a scenario which should be easy to repro and it should be clear it is a bug.

To overcome this bug be sure your mouse cursor is over the trimmer timeline while pressing key "A".