How did they do that????

shogo wrote on 5/14/2003, 3:14 PM
I saw this video and it is way Cool it's the Queens of The Stone Age -Go with the flow video anybody else seen it. I was wondering how the got all of that red and black on everything but the white areas. Is this easily done in Vegas, maybe Color corector and the secondary for a mask not sure how you would do it though. Anyways here is a link to the video if you want to check it out. It's in Real player format.

http://www.mtv.com/bands/az/queens_stone_age/artist.jhtml

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Acts7 wrote on 5/14/2003, 3:58 PM
My first guess would be - this was done using Wildform Flix Pro 3.xx
It has an export command that will export vector video
Then adjusted the color settings .
When they shot the video they probably used extremely white contrast.
Other guess would be some sort of posterizing effect like in Photoshop
Third guess
DO A SCREEN color fill.
if you do a color fill your white areas will stay white etc

Thanks

Acts7
shogo wrote on 5/14/2003, 4:14 PM
When you say SCREEN color fill where would you do that in Photoshop or Vegas
seibu1 wrote on 5/14/2003, 6:48 PM
"Screen" is the compositing mode on the video track in Vegas. The button right below the solo button. In Photoshop it's your transfer mode, the pulldown list just below your layers tab.

Seibu
d1editor wrote on 5/14/2003, 8:03 PM
Are you sure it is footage?? I'm not---Several scenes look animated... also, you would not use Photoshop for a video project...you would have to paint frame by frame...After Effects would be the choice for that type of work in video. Generally, color correction like the bacground scene would be done via telecine using a Da Vinci color correction (Shoot film- transfer to video)... that's my 2 cents worth! We did a spot for American Cyanamid using brown tones like that...it was done at the film transfer
FuTz wrote on 5/14/2003, 8:21 PM
I also think a big part of it was done with animation. For the girl, looks like real stuff recorded with high contrast then FXed.
Some shots of the band might have been "real shooting" too.
My guess is that when it was possible, they shot the scenes with the final processing in mind then for the other parts they used animation.
What programs? I really don't know... but the result is great!
studioman3000 wrote on 5/14/2003, 9:26 PM
I didn't look at it - but I'm happy to say that if I want to achieve an animated-looking effect, I'm happy to spend the time in a good photo-editor to do it frame by frame. Batch processing helps with this kind of thing. You can do some really great stuff - basically whatever you can do to a photo. It just takes a while. At least we're not doing a frame a day on a Cray computer making Tron. Rock on.
shogo wrote on 5/14/2003, 10:30 PM
I have tried usinf effects in Photoshop using the .FLM format but what always happens is that when you apply a filter to the background frame by frame it is to drastic of a change between frames and ends up making me nosious. Is there a better way of doing it in Photoshop so that the changes aren't as dramatic?
d1editor wrote on 5/15/2003, 9:36 AM
Photoshop is not intended for video...unless you want to painstakenly paint and match frame by frame. Adobe After Effects is photoshop for the video world, where you can apply your filters (as many as you like) across the entire video clip in a keyframable mode! Why anyone would want to do a 2 to 3 minute video (1,800 frames per minute) is beyond rational thought..... and the amount of personal labor time is rediculous!
shogo wrote on 5/15/2003, 12:41 PM
So I can use ALL of my Photoshop filters in AE, is that what you are saying?
studioman3000 wrote on 5/15/2003, 1:25 PM
That's good to know. THanks.
Sol M. wrote on 5/16/2003, 3:46 AM
Actually Photoshop is still heavily used in FX work to this day. Many people say that After Effects is the 'Photoshop for Film', but that's really only if you use Photoshop to simply throw filters onto an image.
Photoshop is the best bitmap editing tool around, and that's why, for those who really care to get the look their going for (especially in film), they do in fact use photoshop painting frame by frame.
After Effects, while great for what it is, is mostly an animation program, allowing one to animate layers around in space, while at the same time allowing you to throw filters on them if need be.
Nowadays, there are programs specially made for film/video that help the frame by frame painting process somewhat. Such as Commotion, Combustion, etc. However, do not mistake AE for a film/video painting program, as it would be wrong.

As for the music video, it looks like classic rotoscoping (frame by frame painting), with a twist of today's tech. I'll bet the band was shot on a green soundstage, their images rotoscoped, and later added to the truck, and scene, which appears to be completely done in 3d. Same thing for the women. They were just shot, rotoscoped, and composited into the scene.
Very well done tho. I watched this mv in awe the first time I saw it, for it was great execution of a classic technique.
Zendorf wrote on 5/17/2003, 1:22 AM
Yeah it is one of the the more striking vids around at the moment, for sure! When I first saw it I thought that it had all been 3D animated with mo-cap and was very impressed, but recently found out that the closeups were of the actual band that had been green screened. The band and truck were actually painted black and white and comped in using flame/inferno for the closeups. There is actually very minimal animation on the band for the far and mid shots if you look closely....easy to notice when you know how it is done.

You can get a similar look using the Boris tritone plugin (reduces your images to black, white and one other colour) in After Effects. I got this plugin free with the excellent "Motion Graphics with After Effects"....which is the definitive guide to motion graphics.

And yes you can use many photoshop plugins in AE, my fave being Virtual Painter, which I have used on a couple of music vids I have done...a much different look to Video Van gogh as it imparts a jerkier sorta vibe as each frame is not interpolated from the last....

Satish was very close to finishing his photoshop filter adapter for Vegas..and talk of an AE filter......What is the word on this Satish (for those that don't use AE or Aura anyway)?
Zendorf wrote on 5/17/2003, 1:24 AM
Doh ...I forgot to include the link to the making of "Go with the flow"....

http://www.3dfestival.com/story.php?story_id=1072
satish wrote on 5/18/2003, 11:28 PM
Actually i got sidetracked with the other rotoscoping plugin recently.. as you said, it is almost there and still need to fix a few minor issues.