How fast are your renders? GPU and no GPU

pilsburypie wrote on 7/7/2012, 4:14 PM

Yesterday I was reading a post and someone mentioned rendertest. This is a downloadable file (2.5GB) from the Vegas website (see near the bottom of the page).

I was just wondering what other people have system wise and how fast they render. Not really a "who has the biggest winky" competition, but more of an insight into how mine and others machines are running.

So, for me rendering as suggested in the PDF. Mainconcept AVC internet HD1080:

GPU acceleration on 50 seconds
CPU only: 2mins 30 secs

intel i7 3770k O/C 4.4Ghz
GTX570
16GB RAM O/C 2133MHz
Are You using Windows7 in "Compatibility Mode" Yes
Along with you model VideoCard stated - what is the exact driver version installed 304.79 - BETA
Motherboard Model Asus P8Z77-V
Are you running Sata drives Sata 3 (no raid)
-separate drives for OS and video Yes - 128Gb SSD for OS/programs and a 3TB HDD for photos and videos

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videoITguy wrote on 7/7/2012, 5:48 PM

For pilsburypie :
for test file: http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro/gpuacceleration

before we get too far along on this..please state the answer to the following specs:

Are You using Windows7 in "Compatibility Mode" Yes No
Along with your model VideoCard as stated - what is the exact driver version installed _____________
Motherboard Model ___________
Are you running Sata drives (no raid config.?) -separate drives for OS and video Yes No

I hope that all others who follow use this format...

pilsburypie wrote on 7/7/2012, 5:56 PM

My specs updated - good call.

NicolSD wrote on 7/7/2012, 8:37 PM

videolTguy wrote: "Are you running Sata drives (no raid config.?)"

That made me think. When I rendered without GPU the other day, I did not take advantage of my RAID drives. I have an SSD as a system drive and two RAID 0 drives (one for the source footage, the other to render to).

Yesterday, reading and writing to the same drive, I rendered the PressReleaseProject in 1:48. So I did it again today making sure I took advantage of the RAID configuration this time. I chopped off 20 seconds!

Hard drives can AND do cause a bottle neck when rendering.

dalemccl wrote on 7/7/2012, 8:53 PM

My results are very slow compared to pilsburypie's. My system is not spec'd as high, but it's no slouch so I expected better results. CPU-only was faster than with GPU turned on. Makes me wonder if my system has some sort of bottleneck. I'm behind on the NVidia driver version, but haven't updated the driver under the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" principle. But looking at these results, maybe it is broke(n).

GPU rendering on: 4:18
CPU only: 3:31

>Win 7 64 Pro - not in compatibility mode
>Intel i7 920 2.66 GHz
>EVGA GTX560Ti slightly overclocked by EVGA. Driver 295.73
>18 GB DDR3 1300
>ASUS P6T SE mobo
>No RAID. O/S and programs on 120 GB SSD connected to SATA 6 on an ASUS U3S6 PCI-X card (mobo does not have Sata 6)
>Project file and source video on a 2 TB Sata 3 5400 RPM drive. Rendered to a 1 TB Sata 3 5400 RPM drive

videoITguy wrote on 7/7/2012, 9:15 PM

For :dalemccl
I am not an expert and I don't know your motherboard- so consider these comments with a grain of salt....

Based on how your board works you MAY have a system that is configured to rob from Peter to pay Paul. Essentially meaning your PCI-X card is stealing some throughput from the system and your low-speed data drives are not giving a fast access.

Try your test again with Compatibilty Mode on.

Some possible system fixes (consider if they are worth it). Return to a Boot /Program Sata3 harddrive (7200 rpm or better) and one data drive Sata 3 of same. Better if you could establish a hardware raid for data...but that might not work to any advantage for you on the CPU/GPU issue examined here.

ushere wrote on 7/7/2012, 9:35 PM

with the test file from sony -

a. what project settings?

b. rendering to what?

tia

oops - is this info in the zip / pdf?

dalemccl wrote on 7/7/2012, 9:50 PM

Thanks, videoITguy. When you said test again with Compatibility Mode on, were you referring to running VP11 in Compatibility Mode (turning it on in the .exe's "Properties/Compatibility" tab)?

I re-ran the test using Vista Service Pack 2 compatibility mode and the render took slightly longer: 4:32 vs. 4:18 previously. My only choices for compatibility mode were:

Windows Server 2008 Service Pack 1
Windows Vista
Windows Vista Service Pack 1
Windows Vista Service Pack 2
Windows 7

I'll keep researching the problem outside this thread so I don't distract further from the OP's intent, which is GPU vs. CPU rendering results (rather than system problems affecting results.)

Thanks again.

ritsmer wrote on 7/8/2012, 3:51 AM

When comparing render times it is urgent also to consider the Options/Preferences Dynamic RAM preview and Maximum number of rendering threads as they in some cases and with some media have an up to 1:5 impact on rendering times.
With my daily media it was more pronounced in version 10 - but still I have a sharp point at some 70-100 MB RAM and 2-3 rendering threads.

See this very interesting thread about it:
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/forums/ShowMessage.asp?ForumID=4&MessageID=786233

ushere wrote on 7/8/2012, 4:38 AM

i7 / 920 / 12gb ram / gtx 550ti (current release driver) / bm intensity pro - win7 / sp1 / 64bit - NO overclocking, NO compatibility mode.

rendered from / to separate internal segate 7.2k drives (not system drive)

1. gpu:

avchd - 1.26
xdcam - 2.08

2. no gpu

avcd - 2.36
xdcam -4.41

ram @ 200mb

obviously gpu for me ;-)

@dalemccl - my rig's pretty much the same as yours, so i think you might have a 'problem' of some sort?

what did surprise me (pleasantly so) was in comparison to pilsburypie rig my old i7/920 isn't doing too badly. i now feel confident NOT upgrading till the next major leap by intel....

videoITguy wrote on 7/8/2012, 11:18 AM

FYI - info about the value of the board P6T SE/I7-920 processor combo as a video editor........

In the current (7/7/2012) ranking by testing of Premiere CS5 video editing systems - this combo scores right in the middle value.
In other words from a rank of 1-900+ this setup combo averages a value of between 430 - 500 - placing it squarely in the middle of contemporary value as an editor.

Caveats, of course ranks by Premiere and VegasPro11 could be very different animals. Since setups can vary by so much -every rank system score has to be considered as a general benchmark. And the rank is bound to change as more people test, and newer more powerful systems enter the ranking system over time.

Just Interesting to note...

videoITguy wrote on 7/9/2012, 11:30 AM

More testing anyone, please....

Webhorse wrote on 7/9/2012, 2:25 PM

Have started the download, and will test it tomorrow after work (18 hours from now)

Multitech wrote on 7/9/2012, 4:32 PM

My render times

GPU
avchd: cannot render, time clock begins but just hangs, no frames render

No GPU
avchd 8:20

xdcam 6:28(unsure if this is GPU or not)

Win7 x64
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9505 2.83 GHz, 16GB RAM
Are You using Windows7 in "Compatibility Mode" Yes
Along with your model VideoCard as stated - what is the exact driver version installed ATI/AMD Radeon HD 4650 Catalyst 12.3 (8.951-120308a-135594C-ATI)
Motherboard Model Intel Q45 Express (AU245AV HP Compaq 8000 Elite CMT)
Are you running Sata drives (no raid config.?) -separate drives for OS and video Yes, no raid

Webhorse wrote on 7/11/2012, 11:08 AM

CPU only: 3:42
GPU - cant, it crashes (using ATI V4900 + latest driver)

Windows Version:7 64-bit
RAM:16GB
Processor:Intel Xeon W3550
Video Card:AMD FirePro V4900
Sound Card:SoundMAX Digital HD Audio
Video Capture:
CD Burner:
DVD Burner:TSST CDDVDW TS-H653J
Camera:Panasonic HDC-TM900
OS/System Partiton Raid0 2 X 120GB Intel 510 SSD
Data Partiton 2 TB SATA3

Pete Siamidis wrote on 7/11/2012, 2:16 PM

Mainconcept AVC internet HD1080 render setting:
CPU only: 3:10
GPU: 1:34

Windows Version: 7 64-bit
RAM: 16GB 1600mhz
Processor:Intel i7-2600k 4.7ghz
Video Card: NVidia 560ti

cohibaman#1 wrote on 7/11/2012, 4:15 PM

Rendered Sony's Render Test to MainConcept AVC/AAC, Internet HD 1080p (1920x1080), with Project settings set to Best and not using Compatibility Mode, Dynamic Ram set at 70MB,and maximum number of rendering threads=16 Using Vegas Pro 11 (Build 683)( 64-bit)

GPU Acceleration Enabled: 2:15min.
GPU Acceleration Disabled: 2:48min.

Windows Version:7 Pro 64-bit
RAM:16GB
Processor:Intel i7 2600k
Video Card:Diamond Radeon 6970 with latest AMD 12.4 Catalyst Control Centre driver/software.
Sound Card:Asus Xonar DX
Video Capture:Onboard 1394 & Multi Card Reader
DVD Burner:Lite-On DVD Multi + Lite-On Blue Ray Burner Multi
Camera:Panasonic HDC TM700
Asrock Fatal1ty Pro Generation 3 Motherboard (not OC), OCZ Vertex 3 SSD OS drive on Sata 6, used for programs and 2 WD Black (1TB + 2TB) used for media storage. No raid setup on this system.

TheRhino wrote on 7/11/2012, 5:16 PM

Sony's Render Test to MainConcept AVC/AAC, Internet HD 1080p (1920x1080), with Project settings set to BEST and not using Compatibility Mode, Dynamic Ram set at 200MB,and maximum number of rendering threads=16. Rendering from one hardware RAID to another hardware RAID - both read/write at about 400Mbps.

No GPU Acceleration - Only have older GPU...

Using Vegas Pro 10e:
MP4: 2:10
XDCAM: 2:18
100% CPU Useage

Using Vegas Pro 11.683:
MP4: 3:43
75% CPU Useage - cannot figure this one out....

Windows Version:7 64-bit
RAM:24GB
Processor:980X 6-core @ 4.0ghz
Video Card:9600 GSO
Video Capture:Blackmagic Decklink Extreme
Add. Comments:(1) 9650SE RAID w/12 Drives (3) Hot-Swap Bays (2) 24" Dell LCDs (3) SSDs/Triple Boot