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BillyBoy wrote on 10/16/2003, 7:13 PM
Compressing it more (lower the bitrate) will get more material on, meaning you could possibily get 5 even 6 GB worth of material on a DVD but at a loss of quality. You go top low it also becomes a issue as to if or not a lot of DVD set tops will play it without trouble or if they do if you see pixelation.

Only one way to tell, try burning to a rewriteable so if it doesn't work at least you won't waste the disc.
jetdv wrote on 10/16/2003, 7:20 PM
You can specify the max size for a DVD in the option. It will also allow creating the necessary folders at the larger size. However you'll then have to put it onto DLT or multiple DVD-R discs and have them replicated to get it all to fit.

johnmeyer wrote on 10/17/2003, 12:37 AM
Four options I know of:

1. Wait until larger, dual layer disks come out (this is what RafalK's link talks about). However, this will not happen soon. It wasn't even thought possible just a year ago.

2. Use a two-sided DVD. These are available now. This isn't perfect, but it does double the capacity. There are no dual-sided DVD players, so the user will have to turn the disk over, like the old laserdisc players.

3. Use higher compression. This is what BillyBoy recommended, and it is the only option for getting more stuff on a disk. With some source material (like VHS tape), you can go set the bitrate much lower than the default 8 Mbps before you see any problems. If you set it to 4 Mbps, you get twice as much video time on the disk. However, for high quality material, you'll almost certainly begin to notice problems as you approach 6 Mbps, and 4 is almost certainly out of the question.

4. This last one is really a subset of number 3. You can prepare a disk using the full 8 Mbps encoding rate, and then use a DVD transcoding product, like DVD Shrink, to make it smaller. While it is probably better to just use a bitrate calculator to decide what bitrate you should use to fit "x" amount of material onto a single DVD, the transcoding has the advantage that you will always exactly fill the DVD with no wasted space. Some people on other forums have claimed that they get better quality this way. Personally, I doubt this, and I also don't like it because it represents an extra step.

Finally, if your project has several parts, and one part is less critical, you can do a variation on number 3 above by compressing some parts of the project more than others.
groovedude wrote on 10/17/2003, 1:04 AM
Please, nobody tell James Cameron he can now make a 12 hour movie. I felt I needed a shave and shower after Titanic.
wcoxe1 wrote on 10/17/2003, 11:49 AM
12 hours? Pah! You should see the original Russian version of War and Piece which came some time before 1972. It was over 15 hours long, with over - get this - over one million extras. You should have seen the two armies attacking from the helly view. Looking down was fantastic.
TimTyler wrote on 11/1/2003, 10:39 AM
> However you'll then have to put it onto DLT or multiple
> DVD-R discs and have them replicated to get it all to fit.

As best I can tell, DVDA won't write to DLT media or in a format other than DVD-/+R.

Please tell me I'm wrong!

I've contacted several DVD replicators and they all want projects on DLT exclusively. I would LOVE to find somebody who could take a 8GB DVDA output project and make a DVD-9 format DLT that I could take to a replicator.
vonhosen wrote on 11/1/2003, 11:41 AM
I believe a guy called Trai Forrester was attempting to develop a process so that all authoring programs could effectively be used (with a little help) to author the required 2 DLT masters that replicating houses need.

You might want to check out his website (I haven't used it myself I may add)

http://www.tfdvd.com/public/147.cfm
riredale wrote on 11/1/2003, 11:56 PM
Timtyler:

If your question is whether it is possible to "overburn" a DVD blank in the same way that one can overburn a CD-R beyond the official 80 minutes, then the answer is no. DVD-Rs are stuck at 4,700,000,000 bytes (which turns out to be 4.38GB, not 4.7).
craftech wrote on 11/2/2003, 8:47 AM
Riredale,
You beat me to it. That's what I figured his question meant as well.
John