How to CROP entire video track edges? Track Motion ruins rendering!

mikecazz wrote on 4/11/2003, 9:30 AM

OK I am back with more questions - this issue is because of using TRACK MOTION to crop the entire framed image.

How else can I crop an entire video track without using track motion? I need to cut off some black edges and clean up the bottom rollover from capture.

Using track motion causes the video during encoding to break up - line after line - almost like an interlacing issue. Very hard break on vertical lines and other fast moving or camera moving slow shots. Makes the render useless.

My path is: Hi8 to Canopus ADVC1394 to Vegas to Main COncept Mpeg2 to DVD Architect.

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Tyler.Durden wrote on 4/11/2003, 9:45 AM

Hi Mike,

Another option is to use the border FX on the track: set to black, the border will not resize the image and still mask the edges.

HTH, MPH

mikecazz wrote on 4/11/2003, 10:07 AM

I will give that a try now. Will this basically leave me not filling up the tv frame on playback? Will that depend on the settings on my tv usually?

Will give this a shot and still willing to try other options if they exist currently.

Thanks much - this forum is a true lifesaver.

Former user wrote on 4/11/2003, 10:19 AM

Also, make sure you are rendering at BEST quality. This seems to help when having to process so much video.

Dave T2

mikecazz wrote on 4/11/2003, 10:23 AM

Initially I thought the change to BEST caused the edge issue - but it was the track motion crop.

I am using BEST and DVD Architect template and Main Concept Mpg 2

kirkdickinson wrote on 4/11/2003, 10:38 AM

Mike,

I used to crop all the VHS video that I captured to take out the black line on the left and the junk at the bottom. I don't do that anymore because those things are well past the overscan of every tv I have ever played them on. I decided it was just wasted time.

It will look bad in Vegas because you are seeing clear to the edge.

Run a test and see if I am right.

Kirk

mikecazz wrote on 4/11/2003, 10:52 AM

Well you may indeed be right - I know in Power DVD it clearly shows the bad edges - I will burn a DVDRW and test it on my tvs - although I think it shows up.

By the way - what the heck causes that rolling edge on the bottom - cheap capture cards?

mikecazz wrote on 4/11/2003, 11:24 AM

Sometimes the best thing to do is nothing - at least on my big screen your right - overscan takes off the edges anyways - end of issue!

kirkdickinson wrote on 4/11/2003, 11:30 AM

You are right, I can see the bad edges in Power DVD. It is irritating.

I just finished a project that had loads of scanned photos that were already cropped fairly tight. I had to use the crop tool and make sure than all of the photo was inside the action safe area, and all the detail inside the title safe area. The stuff that fell outside the action safe area is completely missing on every tv I have watched it on.

I don't know what causes the bad edge on the bottom, but I assumed it had something to do with the sterio sound that is recorded mixed into the video on a VHS. I decided that because the video distortions seem to correspond to the sound. I may be all wrong about that.

Kirk

Spot|DSE wrote on 4/12/2003, 12:18 PM

in case no one mentioned it, this is a job for Supersampling envelopes. There is a tutorial on how to use them on the http://www.sundancemediagroup.com/help/kb site