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FayFen wrote on 12/10/2020, 11:25 AM

yassera-s wrote on 12/10/2020, 1:01 PM


@FayFen Thank you very much for the video but that is not exactly the same effect

Wiew wrote on 12/11/2020, 2:47 AM

Boris FX the light leaks dissolve, also not exactly the same , but it adds color

https://vimeo.com/153398178

Dexcon wrote on 12/11/2020, 6:19 AM

The clip has many different transitions - they are not all the same. The first one gives an impression of light leaks, but I think that it is because some elements of the transition are zoomed in which exaggerates the sun light. If the transitions are BorisFX transitions, the first transition could be BCC Flicker. It's really hard to tell because BorisFX transitions are so customisable that a customised look achieved can look very different to the default.

Also, I get the impression that there could be double transitions at work. They've done a transition on the timeline, rendered it, and then added the render back on to the timeline, split it at the mid-point of the transition, pulled the L & R images over each other to the in and out points of that transition, and then added yet another transition over the already rendered transition.

OTH, they may have done a whole lot of editing pre-transition including pan/crop zoom-ins - maybe with VFX - rendered it and then applied a transition over the rendered events.

The best way to find out - if you know who posted the video, email them and ask them.

EDIT: BorisFX transition Flicker mentioned above should be Flutter Cut.

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yassera-s wrote on 12/11/2020, 7:59 AM

Boris FX the light leaks dissolve, also not exactly the same , but it adds color

https://vimeo.com/153398178

Thanks @Wiew but that still not what I am hoping to achieve

yassera-s wrote on 12/11/2020, 8:15 AM

The clip has many different transitions - they are not all the same. The first one gives an impression of light leaks, but I think that it is because some elements of the transition are zoomed in which exaggerates the sun light. If the transitions are BorisFX transitions, the first transition could be BCC Flicker. It's really hard to tell because BorisFX transitions are so customisable that a customised look achieved can look very different to the default.

Also, I get the impression that there could be double transitions at work. They've done a transition on the timeline, rendered it, and then added the render back on to the timeline, split it at the mid-point of the transition, pulled the L & R images over each other to the in and out points of that transition, and then added yet another transition over the already rendered transition.

OTH, they may have done a whole lot of editing pre-transition including pan/crop zoom-ins - maybe with VFX - rendered it and then applied a transition over the rendered events.

The best way to find out - if you know who posted the video, email them and ask them.


@Dexcon  I have the Premier project for the video I shared and the effects all done at once using something called Adjustment Layer and not using any 3rd party plugins only using the built in effects or transitions. Also it plays back in real time with nothing pre-rendered as when I move the Adjustment Layer to other part of the timeline it applies the same effect on the new part. Here is screenshot for the project:

Wiew wrote on 12/11/2020, 9:22 AM

I don't know Premiere very well , but I thought that adjustment layer is like a container where you put an effect or colorgrading in

It is no effect on it's own; (I could be wrong)

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alifftudm95 wrote on 12/11/2020, 10:01 AM

I don't know Premiere very well , but I thought that adjustment layer is like a container where you put an effect of colorgrading in

It is no effect on it's own; (I could be wrongd)

Premiere Adjustment layer can affect FX as well, that is why the "preset" for Adobe is everywhere

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alifftudm95 wrote on 12/11/2020, 10:02 AM

This translation effects was done in Premiere can I easily do the same in Vegas?

You will required sapphire plugins. Not achievable with VEGAS Pro default OFX

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yassera-s wrote on 12/11/2020, 4:20 PM

I don't know Premiere very well , but I thought that adjustment layer is like a container where you put an effect or colorgrading in

It is no effect on it's own; (I could be wrong)

True .. It is no effect on it's own but you can apply all kind of effects to it and animate it. I wish Vegas had adjustment layer .. very useful tool.

yassera-s wrote on 12/11/2020, 4:25 PM

This translation effects was done in Premiere can I easily do the same in Vegas?

You will required sapphire plugins. Not achievable with VEGAS Pro default OFX

Any idea which sapphire plugin I need to achieve this? I might afford limited sapphire unites but not the entire sapphire suite.. way too expensive for me!

Dexcon wrote on 12/12/2020, 5:31 AM

@yassera-s

I have the Premier project for the video I shared and the effects all done at once using something called Adjustment Layer and not using any 3rd party plugins only using the built in effects or transitions.

Just a suggestion. It would have been useful to have explained in your original post how the transition effect was achieved in Premiere Pro so that second guessing how it was done wouldn't have been necessary. Something like, "I've used [this, that and the other] and did [this] in Premiere Pro to achieve this effect, can I easily do the same in Vegas Pro?" At least then there would have been something tangible to go by.

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3POINT wrote on 12/12/2020, 6:05 AM

I don't understand that someone who has an Premiere subscription, buys Vegas to get the same effect done as he already made in Premiere.

Dexcon wrote on 12/12/2020, 6:16 AM

That's awesome @3POINT  ... you've hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head.

And it could be rendered in Premiere and the render imported into Vegas Pro if Vegas Pro is the main NLE for finalising.

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yassera-s wrote on 12/12/2020, 9:39 AM

@yassera-s

I have the Premier project for the video I shared and the effects all done at once using something called Adjustment Layer and not using any 3rd party plugins only using the built in effects or transitions.

Just a suggestion. It would have been useful to have explained in your original post how the transition effect was achieved in Premiere Pro so that second guessing how it was done wouldn't have been necessary. Something like, "I've used [this, that and the other] and did [this] in Premiere Pro to achieve this effect, can I easily do the same in Vegas Pro?" At least then there would have been something tangible to go by.


@Dexcon I said I "have" the Premiere project and didn't not say that i created it! Another person created that project, not me because i barely now the very basics of Premiere and not expert in it

yassera-s wrote on 12/12/2020, 9:41 AM

I don't understand that someone who has an Premiere subscription, buys Vegas to get the same effect done as he already made in Premiere.


@3POINT my answer to you is the same answer to @Dexcon above

I want to learn how to do that effects in Vegas so i can made modification to it instead of learning premier but it seems i have to learn premier anyway

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 12/14/2020, 8:36 PM

Those transition effects can now be achieved in Vegas using the new Vitascene version 4. The sad part is that there is a slight issue/bug with not being able to always drag the effect to the timeline.

alifftudm95 wrote on 12/15/2020, 12:16 AM

I don't understand that someone who has an Premiere subscription, buys Vegas to get the same effect done as he already made in Premiere.


@3POINT my answer to you is the same answer to @Dexcon above

I want to learn how to do that effects in Vegas so i can made modification to it instead of learning premier but it seems i have to learn premier anyway

Just hope VEGAS team will actually develop a proper new FX that would be used in most projects. I found it very pain I can't achieve simple FX that can be done in other NLE, especially PR without any 3rd party plugins.

 

I already list out at least 6 new OFX in VEGAS 19 feature/request post.

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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 12/15/2020, 5:01 AM

alifftudm95, Not painful at all, you see, 3rd party plugins are very, very essential when you are editing at the Professional level, because you see, built in transitions and certain FX in an NLE or Compositing Tools are often times quite cheesy, simple, common or generic etc.... 3rd party developers gives you that edge to be more flexible and more creative.

yassera-s wrote on 12/15/2020, 10:57 AM

Those transition effects can now be achieved in Vegas using the new Vitascene version 4. The sad part is that there is a slight issue/bug with not being able to always drag the effect to the timeline.

Thanks for the information. Will download the trial version and see..

alifftudm95 wrote on 12/15/2020, 11:21 AM

alifftudm95, Not painful at all, you see, 3rd party plugins are very, very essential when you are editing at the Professional level, because you see, built in transitions and certain FX in an NLE or Compositing Tools are often times quite cheesy, simple, common or generic etc.... 3rd party developers gives you that edge to be more flexible and more creative.

that's when you're wrong. I can do the "hyperzoom" transitions in PR with a cost of the software subscriptions only. no any 3rd party is required. Best of all it can be packed as presets and shared easily. I'm not saying vegas can't share the premade presets, but its no where near as perfect as PR presets pack. That is why tons of presets online regarding to adobe.

VEGAS in the other hand required another couple hundred dollars just to achieve to same FX.

 

RGB split FX, Handy seamless transitions, shakes, HSL adjustment all of them in one program. Technically, user is paying more for simple/free stuff.

 

go check out trending editing, u see how far left behind VEGAS actually when giving a modern visuals.

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yassera-s wrote on 12/15/2020, 11:43 AM

I don't understand that someone who has an Premiere subscription, buys Vegas to get the same effect done as he already made in Premiere.


@3POINT my answer to you is the same answer to @Dexcon above

I want to learn how to do that effects in Vegas so i can made modification to it instead of learning premier but it seems i have to learn premier anyway

Just hope VEGAS team will actually develop a proper new FX that would be used in most projects. I found it very pain I can't achieve simple FX that can be done in other NLE, especially PR without any 3rd party plugins.

 

I already list out at least 6 new OFX in VEGAS 19 feature/request post.

Totally agree with you

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 12/15/2020, 12:25 PM

alifftudm95, don't tell me to go and check out anything, you think you are speaking to an editing novice or to someone who doesn't know exactly what they are talking about in this world of digital content creation? You think Vegas Pro is my only professional tool of choice daily.... I know Vegas's shortcomings extensively inside and out for over 16 years and no NLE has everything. Thus my statements above on 3rd party plugins is by no means incorrect...... I have now said enough on this matter!

alifftudm95 wrote on 12/15/2020, 12:38 PM

alifftudm95, don't tell me to go and check out anything, you think you are speaking to an editing novice or to someone who doesn't know exactly what they are talking about in this world of digital content creation? You think Vegas Pro is my only professional tool of choice daily.... I know Vegas's shortcomings extensively inside and out for over 16 years and no NLE has everything. Thus my statements above on 3rd party plugins is by no means incorrect...... I have now said enough on this matter!

lol okey then, seems like ur ego is too high

 

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