How to export a project in HDV?

Videojohn wrote on 4/22/2008, 1:16 AM
Hi,
I have a project in HDV 720-25p and want to produce a DVD to my clients, but I don't know in which format to export.. The thing is that my clients will maybe not show the film on 16:9 TV. So what is the best and more versatile oprion to give them?

Another question:
What is the best format for print to tape, (knowing that very few people will be able to read HDV format), PAL DV Widescreen?, PAL DV Letterbox?

Thanks,
Videojohn

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Videojohn wrote on 4/22/2008, 12:18 PM
Hi, I made a test by exporting a project originally in HDV intermediate 25p into PAL DV Widescreen, and the result is terrible! The image is slightly blurred!!

I tried to export in HDV 25p and the result is much better. Why is this so?

ANd how can I make a master in DV (widescreen) without losing quality?
Any help appriciated,
Thanks,
Videojohn
Videojohn wrote on 4/25/2008, 3:23 AM
Hi,
I'm still struggling with my final project in HDV 720p in HDV.

First, when I read it, from time to time, the picture freezes (and the sound continues playing normally) and starts again. I guees it's a problem of reading only because if I play the file again it stops at different points during the film.

But if it's a reading problem does it means that I'll not have a clean print to tape?

The first print to tape that I made (in PAL DVG Widescreen), the pictuire was ok, but the sound was slower and dirty! I discovered that even in the timeline, the sound was like this, but because of the prerendered files. When I cleaned up the preprendered files, the sound problem disappeared in the timeline (but of course is still in the tape!!)

My explaination may be a bit confused but what I would like to know is how to make a master in HDV 720p or in PAL DV Widescreen (from HDV 720p) or what are the best options for exportation of the final project originally in HDV 720p intermediate. (the final product will be in Matser tape and DVD)

Thank you for the help.
Videojohn
farss wrote on 4/25/2008, 6:44 AM
I've made quite a few PAL Widescreen DVDs from HDV. Printing to tape as PAL DV shouldn't pose any real problems.
First though render to a PAL DV avi file. Then print that to tape, after checking that the DV file is OK.

Your playback problem doesn't sound unusual, things just cannot keep up and Vegas looses the plot. When rendering the process slows down waiting for everything so your playback problems will not be in your rendered output.

When printing to tape I always render to a clean file, check that if I have any doubts and then PTT from that. You should be able to render 720p to PAL 16:9 50i with no problems. Make certain you're using Best.

Bob.
RalphM wrote on 4/25/2008, 8:19 AM
Bob,

what do you mean by "render to a clean file"?
Videojohn wrote on 4/29/2008, 8:49 AM
Hi, I finally succeeded to print to tape in 16:9 and also Letter box.

I have now to give the film in DVD to my clients (the filme is originally in 16:9) but my clients will probably watch the movie on variious TV and computers. I know that with computers there is no problems with 16:9, because if the computer does not have a screen 16:9 it automatically read in Letterbox.

But what about the TV? If a TV can't read the 16:9, is there any way to provide a DVD with the option to switch from 4:3 to 16:9 in fucntion of the needs?

I use DVD Maestro as a DVD authoring program and it gives me various options:

4:3
16:9 LB / PS
16:9 leeterbox
16:9 Pan Scan

IIs there any option that provide flexibility for TV sets that does not support 4:3?

Thanks
Videojohn
Videojohn wrote on 4/30/2008, 3:09 AM
Is there any possibiliy to have both format 4:3 and 16:9 in a sanme DVD. In other word, depending on the TV set of the user, the format can be switched between 4:3 and 16:9?
Thanks
Videojohn
johnmeyer wrote on 4/30/2008, 8:41 AM
You can edit in 16:9 and also do an edit in 4:3. If you do actually create both versions, you will then understand that these are completely different things. What I mean is that you can't just squish or expand one and get the other. So, if you want to offer both, you have to edit each separately and then put both on the DVD. I am sure you have seen Hollywood movies that you rent which have 16:9 on one side and 4:3 on the other. For short movies, they will sometimes put both on the same side. But, rest assured that these are not different views of the same file; the DVD player is playing from completely different files, and those have been edited separately.

Also, the player cannot query the TV set to which it is connected and communicate that back to the logic controlling the playback of the DVD, so the user must make the 4:3/16:9 choice through a menu.

rdolishny wrote on 8/28/2008, 6:23 AM
that functionality has been built into DVD software forever

just work in anamorphic all the time. when you render it out as 'widescreen' vegas sets a flag that is passed on to your dvd software that the media is widescreen.

when you client bought their DVD player the first thing they have to do it tell the player what kind of TV is hooked up to it. The DVD player doesn't know.

Now, when it plays a widescreen DVD on a widescreen TV all is good.

But what happens if you have a 4:3 tv? No problem, all DVD players have the ability to add the black bars at the top and bottom for you.

No need to render multiple versions. Just render a widescreen version without bars.
johnmeyer wrote on 8/28/2008, 7:12 AM
No need to render multiple versions. Just render a widescreen version without bars.I don't think that is correct. Yes, it is true that you don't ADD the bars to a widescreen version. However, you DO need to render both because there is "extra" information on the left/right edges of a widescreen version that is not contained in a 4:3 version. Like I said in my post last April, there is a reason that Hollywood movies which include both 4:3 and 16:9 have to include two completely different versions of the movie and that reason is that you don't simply get one from the other by using or ignoring the widescreen flag.