How to render movie without black borders

Patre wrote on 7/6/2011, 9:59 AM
My movies (edited in Sony vegas movie studio platinum 10.0) continue to render with a black border on the right and left side. I have tried all of Bill Myer's tips and none of them correct the problem. The preview screen shows that the appropriate adjustment has been made and the video is viewed there without the black borders;However,when the movie is rendered the black borders always show on the right and left edges of the video. When I render a movie in the Serif Movie plus X5 video editing program, the video is rendered without the black borders.
What am I missing in Sony Vegas that would correct this problem?
Thanks for your help?
Pat

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Eugenia wrote on 7/6/2011, 10:10 AM
Export like this and it will work fine: http://eugenia.queru.com/2007/11/09/exporting-with-vegas-for-vimeo-hd/
Patre wrote on 7/6/2011, 10:40 AM
Eugenia,
Thanks for your prompt and comprehensive reply to my question re: rendering without bordered edges in Sony vegas.

I followed the suggestion for a .wmv rendered movie, and the letterbox edges were removed which is exactly what I was hoping would happen. However, because the "stretch video to fill output frame is checked", the image is distorted and the appropriate aspect ratio is lost. I initially matched the media settings, and then configured the "render as" as instructed. Again, I may be missing something,but the unhealthy compromise is no border edges,but distorted image.
Patre
TOG62 wrote on 7/6/2011, 10:42 AM
As a matter of interest, what feature(s) of VMS have persuaded you to use it over MoviePlus X5?
Eugenia wrote on 7/6/2011, 10:46 AM
If you're getting skewed results it's because your aspect ratios are not correct, either in the project properties, or on the exporting dialog. Please list what kind of format this is, from which camera.

Also, for VMS10, it's best to export in MainConcept, not WMV.
musicvid10 wrote on 7/6/2011, 10:46 AM
Patre,
Your render aspect must match your source aspect to not have black borders.
Your only other options are to stretch or to crop.
Patre wrote on 7/6/2011, 10:47 AM
Eugenia,
I just figured out how to make it work. This time I did initially not match media settings,but instead used the Pan and crop feature and selected "match output aspect". Then I followed the "render as" instructions and the video rendered without the black borders and with the correct aspect ratio,so that there was no distortion.
Thanks for your help!
Pat
Patre wrote on 7/6/2011, 10:57 AM
Hi Tog62,
Thanks for your question.
As you can probably tell, I am new to Sony Vegas,but not new to video editing. My current experience suggests that I have more control over specific parameters like pan,zoom and crop. However,I wasn't willing use that "control" if it meant sacrificing image quality in order to achieve it. Now,there may be some "master" users of Serif who by experience and skill could make similar or better adjustments in that program.
However, this now works for me (problem solved per my explanation in above comment)..so I am happy with it..
Pat
Patre wrote on 7/6/2011, 11:10 AM
Thanks to all who responded with comments,suggestions and questions. Your support is much appreciated!
Pat
Patre wrote on 7/8/2011, 9:31 PM
In a previous comment in this thread,I indicated a preference for the Sony Vegas Movie Studio video editing program and explained that I thought the Sony program offered more control over parameters like Pan/zoom,crop etc. I qualified my remarks by indicating that a master video editor working with Serif might be able to accomplish editing tasks that I currently couldn't achieve. Since I made that comment, I have spent a considerable amount of time working with the Serif program, and have found it to be capable of editing tasks that I previously thought only the Sony program could do.

I thought it only fair that I retract my previous comment,if,in fact,it proved to be not as accurate as I initially thought it was. My conclusion is that the final quality of the video created by a filmmaker using most of the sophisticated, but not absolutely "top of the line" video editing programs can be attributed to the skill/lack of skill of the human editor and not the quality of the video editing program.

Thanks for your patience!
Pat