How to view the full image on TV

deguthrie wrote on 12/8/2004, 7:14 AM
I am not an expert. I convert VHS to DV via Canopus AVDC to get AVI file. I bring that to the timeline and render it. The image in the viewer extends outside the "normal viewing frame" and shows me what i will see on the TV. Is there any way to process the AVI file so that I can see all the image instead of the "cropped" version.

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Spot|DSE wrote on 12/8/2004, 7:41 AM
A standard television will always have overscanned areas that are blocked from view by the bezel of the television set. Professional monitors have an Underscan button that allows you to see everything in the frame, and computer displays always allow you to see the frame. So, view this on a computer, you'll see the full frame. But on a television, you can lose up to 10% of the image, depending on the television.
You could render the avi shrunk down a bit, using track motion. That would pillarbox and letterbox your image, but you'd see it all on a regular TV. When you watch the same footage on a computer, you'll have black area above, below, and to the sides of your video.
Chienworks wrote on 12/8/2004, 7:55 AM
Compare your rendered video on the television with the original VHS on the television and i bet you'll find that the original is cropped just as much as the new version.
deguthrie wrote on 12/8/2004, 8:27 AM
Thanks, I will try using track motion. It ought to keep me occupied for a while
RalphM wrote on 12/8/2004, 9:03 AM
My first professional monitor will arrive tomorrow (an eBay find).
This became necessary because when I transfer film to video there will sometimes be junk collecting on the edge of the film gate, or junk in the original camera shutter that has been photographed into the film.

Without an underscanning monitor capability, I may not see the garbage, and if my client has an LCD or plasma TV they may see it. Even LCD computer monitors differ a bit in whether they display the entire frame.

deguthrie wrote on 12/9/2004, 9:26 AM
Using track motion enabled me to make the entire frame visible to my TV audience. For us part time users a title or heading in the user manual about scaliing of the image would help. But there is no substitute for experience and knowledge. Thanks for your support.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 12/9/2004, 10:51 AM
Definitely look at this as being a learning issue... an important one. You can't always expect to find the answer to every question to have it's own place in the manual - ready for when you ask it. This issue is a very basic one that all video editors will come to understand.

This issue is actually dealt with in the help system... but the significance may have been lost to you until now, It is specifically dealt with under the preview monitor help and specifically if you search for "TV safe areas" (but again... how would you know to search for that until you understand that IS the issue... in which case... you would have already known about it... so you would not need to search for it... sorry... just dropped into a black hole causality loop... be back soon)
Chienworks wrote on 12/9/2004, 10:55 AM
Well, as i tried to indicate, the framing you get after saving your edited project should be exactly the same as what you had on the original VHS tape. You never noticed the edges being cut off before because they were always cut off and hidden, so you didn't even know the were there. Once you got the file on your computer screen you saw how much more there was to the frame. Now that you've seen it on the computer screen you expect to see it on the TV, even though you never did before.

Using track motion to reduce the size of the image is changing the framing. The default behavior is to leave it alone and you get out the same thing you put in.