huge stuff... documentary kinda "work in proCess"

FuTz wrote on 2/20/2002, 7:20 AM
I'm starting a new HUGE project, documentary. I recorded 30 tapes and since I don't have a final planning of how I'm gonna put it all together yet, I thought of editing the "meat" of my material under different files (ex: 1-transportation sequence, 2-engine repair, etc...). I'm looking for a simple and efficient way to grab all those .veg files and put them together in the order I want afterwhile when I've decided wich one goes where in the final editing. Any suggestions? Is it possible to edit these sequences this way? Will I have to copy-paste the wholes sequences in a new file?

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slr wrote on 2/20/2002, 8:55 AM
There are probably better ways than this, but you could edit each project individually, then render to a new track or file. For the final edit, just grab those new tracks or files and arrange them in whatever order you think is the best...
db wrote on 2/20/2002, 2:03 PM
we are about 2/3 finished working on project with 70 tapes ...

this is what we did !
capture whole 60 min tape .. go thru tape deleting what we know we won't use .. we use REGIONS and MARKERS to make notes of sections IE: "what is LOVE" we use REGION to mark the beginning of the question and END of the answer ( could be 3 min long ) then we go thru the answer and make MARKER notes of what we liked in the answer ( could be 1 -10 marker notes) ... we use CUTS only .. perhaps our 60 min clip is now selected down to 20 min .. i then render out the 20 min clip ( make sure you have save project markers with file CHECKED ) ... also i copy /paste region/marker notes ( from edit detail) into a excel sheet

do the same for all tapes ......


now when you are in VV explorer and you have it so you have VIEW "detail,region,summary" checked ... when you highlight a AVI file you will see all the REGION notes listed in a window below ! if you double click on any region note it will pop that section into the VV timeline ... so lets say i want to put into the time line ALL "what is love " from all my 70 clips ... i highlight a AVI clip - look for "WHAT is love" then double click and it pops into time line ..next AVI clip- repeat ! after i have ALL 70 "what is love" sections in time line i can now save it as a "what is LOVE" veg file !!

also when you open these clips in the trimmer all region/marker notes will be there ..


we are assembling by QUESTIONS.. so we have a VV window for each question ..

we copy/paste from the 'what is LOVE" veg to a NEW VV (edit what is love) and try to keep it down to 10 min ..

we are now working with all 20 question ( each edited to 10min) and will attempt to put them into some order into a new VV window ... that's where we are now !

the excel sheets are very useful for looking over and picking out section of the answers and arranging a paper edit ......
FuTz wrote on 2/21/2002, 5:50 AM
Thanks to both of you for the replies!

db, I'm gonna make some testing with the functions you described; seems really interesting since I get the option of being able to remanipulate everything afterwhile...and it looks like a clean way to do things (I'll have to go through Excell though, earlier than I thought I'd have to...). This is my first project (and first computer WHICH is a project in itself...) so I've got to learn everything from the ground up... holly molly, 70 tapes???!!! And I thought my project was "huge"...! Go guys go!

slr, this is close to where I was... In fact, I was getting rid of all the extra stuff I already know I won't need. I thought of rendering some sequences into new files like you said, but I'm affraid I won't be able to remanipulate these segments later without a little hassle (for ex.: changing transitions, trimming here and there to make editing rythm more uniform, etc...), no?

PLUS: Is there a function that would warn us that the shot we are about to delete from the HDrive is being used by a project? I mean, just a window popping and giving us the parameters like where this shot is being used, etc... ? If not, this would be a nice feature for these long nights of capturing/editing where our attention may be failing sometimes... And it would save us time by allowing us to delete this extra unusable stuff without having to go to these logging sheets every time...