I bought into Cinescore, why didnt Sony

Zelkien69 wrote on 4/13/2007, 8:38 PM
Any Admins, Gurus, or Higher-ups want to comment on the lack of support for Cinescore? Knowing I could have spent my money elsewhere for something sonically better that would have fired up my mood like a map to Rio is depressing. I have Polka, Trance, Dance, and various Techno with a smidgeon of country, rock, film, and cinematic to "compose" a soundtrack with. Sony, if your listening, do what supporters of your Vegas, Sound Forge, and Acid want and make Cinescore a viable option. You had a sales plan going into the release of Cinescore. Go back and make changes. Because failing to support Cinescore will cause a harsher backlash on your next product, personally speaking. Cinescore does what it's supposed to well, at reasonable cost, with relative ease as a stand-alone or as a plug-in. Reviews were always positive with few major concerns and only one thing missing SUPPORT. I want my $600 back and the time I spent loading the programs and music, watching the tutorials, and getting acquainted back. If anyone wonders why I didn't put this post on the Cinescore forum, here's your reason.....No one would read it. Maybe here it can get attention and garner support. Vegas-A+, Sound Forge-A, Acid-A, Cinescore C-. Wanna go for extra credit Sony and try to pass the class or do you want to just drop out?

Comments

JJKizak wrote on 4/14/2007, 5:56 AM
I'm happy as hell with it. All they need are a few more theme pacs. It is also solid as a rock.
JJK
TeetimeNC wrote on 4/14/2007, 6:31 AM
Better yet, how about Sony publishing the specifications so 3rd parties can develop theme packs?

Jerry
Paul_Holmes wrote on 4/14/2007, 7:08 AM
I'm kind of amazed by this where's the Cinescore support attitude from some people. I suppose part of it is that I got a good deal, bought the Vegas 7 and Cinescore package.

Just what's there now, the two built-in themes plus the five available theme-packs give you enough for years of varied music beds. They certainly don't cover every mood or possibility, but they do already cover a lot. If no more theme packs come out (I'm sure more will arrive) I'll feel my money was well-spent. I'm not a professional but I try to make my extended-family movies as interesting and professional as possible. I'm finding that Cinescore almost always seems to have something that fits the occasion and Stock20.com provides the rest. (I've even broken down and paid $40 for one song at Shockwave-Sound.com because it so perfectly enhanced the mood I wanted to present in my niece Linsey's movie of her year in Europe).

Like others I'm just thrilled with Cinescore and hope they can continue to successfully market it and make a profit on it.
CClub wrote on 4/14/2007, 9:41 AM
I agree with the "publishing the specs" posting. I don't like being locked into the small number of themes, because as we're seeing, if Sony stops supporting it, that's all you'll ever have. But if I could pick up a lot of different themes, OR, better yet, being able to put together your own varying styles with some degree of flexibility using MIDI, WAV's, etc., that would revive this product to some degree. Otherwise, going forward, Cinescore isn't going anywhere beyond a small group of enthusiasts.
kairosmatt wrote on 4/14/2007, 12:30 PM
I also would like to see third party themes. And also:
What about being able to purchase and download themes individually and not in the pack? There are some themes that I would like, but don't have any use for 90% of the rest.
dsf wrote on 4/14/2007, 9:19 PM
What does it do that Acid doesn't do...and do better?
kdm wrote on 4/14/2007, 10:18 PM
So where's Cineflick so we music guys don't have to hire video producers anymore? :-)
JJKizak wrote on 4/15/2007, 5:45 AM
dsf:
Acid has too hard a learning curve, takes too much time, and you must have some kind if musician training, and you can get bogged down for days trying to compose something. Cinescore is relatively automatic and for speed Acid isn't even in the ballpark. Two different applications for two different results.
JJK
Yoyodyne wrote on 4/15/2007, 11:20 PM
I've been using Cinescore a ton! Been very happy with it and it is fast. I would love to see a couple tweaks in the next version and agree with the concern for more music but overall It's been a good purchase.

...& I have even used the techno Polka stuff! Turns out it is the perfect music for Mountain Unicycling...who would a thunk it :)

Would love to see a big new bunch of music libraries.
dsf wrote on 4/15/2007, 11:30 PM
>>>JJKizak: 4/15/2007 5:45:38 AM: "Acid has too hard a learning curve...and you must have some kind of musician training..."

You do not have to use Acid to that depth. You can, for example, take isolated tracks from MIDI files and make simple background music. It allows you to lengthen/shorten/splice/cut music precisely to your time specifications, even splice different pieces and match the rhythmn and without fadeouts at the end....yes i guess the whole problem here is copyright. But if it's just an isolated midi track or two out of 10 tracks, and it's overlaid with other stuff...are they really that vigilant? If the answer is yes, then you CAN make simple background music using the loops, or copyright-free midi stuff, just by linking them and varying their pitch or length--not hard to learn. No, you're not going to make a top-40 hit, which i guess is what the serious users aim for. That's where the steep learning curve comes in. But isnt Zelkien69 just looking for background music?

i disagree that you need special music training to use Acid; unless you have a tin ear, you can make music with it (and without bruising any of the sacrosanct copyright laws). Yes, speedwise, you can make some cheesy thing with Cinescore in a flash. But a video maker would be using Acid a lot and has the prospect of getting better.

BTW, Pinnacle Studio (a low level editor; think it was about $60 when I bought it years ago) had a built-in music generator which worked quite well. And Cinescore costs $600?
Grazie wrote on 4/15/2007, 11:48 PM
Cinescore: US $174.95
dsf wrote on 4/16/2007, 7:24 PM
Grazie 4/16/2007 12:48:06 AM: “Cinescore: US $174.95”

I stand corrected. I was going by the original post; i presume now he was including extras in what he bought.
Grazie wrote on 4/16/2007, 11:27 PM
Oh right! Apologies - g