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Steve_Rhoden wrote on 10/21/2024, 3:21 AM

@Grazie  Only Mercalli 5 works in Vegas Pro at the moment. Prodad has not yet made version 6 available for Vegas.

Also after installation, you have to move the installed files from your default OFX Plugins location, to the Vegas OFX Video Plugins folder for Vegas to pick it up.

3POINT wrote on 10/21/2024, 3:31 AM

@Grazie same as @Steve_Rhoden, but only I have Mercalli 4 working in VP22.

Grazie wrote on 10/21/2024, 3:46 AM

@3POINT And @Steve_Rhoden: Thanks guys!

1 I emailed Prodad.

2 After installing an earlier VP. And confirming Merc works, I switched back to VP22 and it works. Did something get shaken loose?

So, Prodad needs to wake up to VP22.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 10/21/2024, 4:10 AM

@Grazie  Prodad has been saying for months now, that version 6 will eventually be available for Vegas Pro.

But it doesn't really bother me, because Version 6 doesn't offer much improvements over version 5, (which is what i use).

Dexcon wrote on 10/21/2024, 4:23 AM

When Mercalli 4 SAL went to 5 SAL, the upgrade was free, ProDad advising on their webpage at the time that there were no new features in 5 (SAL) - it was just a technology update. I trialed 5 for Vegas at the time but found no difference over 4 for Vegas so I stayed with 4 because it seemed that 5 was 4 but with some unknown technology updates.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

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3POINT wrote on 10/21/2024, 4:26 AM

I even dare to say that there's not much improvement between version 4,5 and 6...and when I compare that with (batch) stabilizing with the free version of Davinci Resolve, which stabilizes much faster and easier....with very good results...I doubt sometimes which one to use....

Dexcon wrote on 10/21/2024, 4:44 AM

I doubt sometimes which one to use....

After lots of experimentation, my stabiliser choices are currently daVinci Resolve for GoPro video (bulk rendering is a giant bonus), Vegas Pro for Samsung S23 Ultra video, Mercalli 5 SAL for video camera video, and Mocha Pro for tasks where the focus for stabilisation needs to be selected via splines so as the stabiliser ignores other parts of the image where there is a lot of movement (e.g. trees in the foreground badly affected by wind). With the latter, Vegas Pro's stabiliser in Expert mode is very good, but Mocha Pro just pips it for a more stable result.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 10/21/2024, 5:02 AM

Good analytical feedback chaps. I've also got Wayne's Deshaker.

3POINT wrote on 10/21/2024, 5:23 AM

Good analytical feedback chaps. I've also got Wayne's Deshaker.

When you compare the available video stabilizers, there's only one winner when good quality, speed (time) and costs are important. When only the perfect quality counts, you have to invest a lot of time and money...

Richvideo wrote on 10/21/2024, 5:04 PM

I doubt sometimes which one to use....

After lots of experimentation, my stabiliser choices are currently daVinci Resolve for GoPro video (bulk rendering is a giant bonus), Vegas Pro for Samsung S23 Ultra video, Mercalli 5 SAL for video camera video, and Mocha Pro for tasks where the focus for stabilisation needs to be selected via splines so as the stabiliser ignores other parts of the image where there is a lot of movement (e.g. trees in the foreground badly affected by wind). With the latter, Vegas Pro's stabiliser in Expert mode is very good, but Mocha Pro just pips it for a more stable result.

Topaz and Resolve have given me the best results, Topaz can also stabilize without any cropping

bitman wrote on 10/23/2024, 2:51 AM

I doubt sometimes which one to use....

After lots of experimentation, my stabiliser choices are currently daVinci Resolve for GoPro video (bulk rendering is a giant bonus), Vegas Pro for Samsung S23 Ultra video, Mercalli 5 SAL for video camera video, and Mocha Pro for tasks where the focus for stabilisation needs to be selected via splines so as the stabiliser ignores other parts of the image where there is a lot of movement (e.g. trees in the foreground badly affected by wind). With the latter, Vegas Pro's stabiliser in Expert mode is very good, but Mocha Pro just pips it for a more stable result.

Topaz and Resolve have given me the best results, Topaz can also stabilize without any cropping

Good observations, I agree. There is also BCC optical stabilizer in the Boris FX continuum...

I mostly need to use stabilization on hand held shots (600m optical equivalent, and cropped as well) of subjects like birds in trees. Mocha Vegas is my favorite for such a thing, but I recently needed to stabilize a raptor I followed handheld flying over rocky background in the Alps, and in this case Mocha Vegas was impossible to use, Vegas pro in expert mode was almost good (Vegas pro made the raptor jump a few frames back here and there, so no good), finally Boris FX BCC optical stabilizer did the trick.

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Dexcon wrote on 10/23/2024, 4:33 AM

Thank you @bitman for highlighting BCC Optical Stabilizer. I've overlooked that one thus far so I'll give it a try on my next project.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

bitman wrote on 10/24/2024, 3:03 AM

@Dexcon to complete the options, there is also newblueFX stabilizer, but that is pretty old I guess. I do not use that one anymore as I have plenty to choose from in my toolbox!

APPS: VIDEO: VP 365 suite (VP 22 build 194) VP 21 build 315, VP 365 20, VP 19 post (latest build -651), (uninstalled VP 12,13,14,15,16 Suite,17, VP18 post), Vegasaur, a lot of NEWBLUE plugins, Mercalli 6.0, Respeedr, Vasco Da Gamma 17 HDpro XXL, Boris Continuum 2025, Davinci Resolve Studio 18, SOUND: RX 10 advanced Audio Editor, Sound Forge Pro 18, Spectral Layers Pro 10, Audacity, FOTO: Zoner studio X, DXO photolab (8), Luminar, Topaz...

  • OS: Windows 11 Pro 64, version 24H2 (since October 2024)
  • CPU: i9-13900K (upgraded my former CPU i9-12900K),
  • Air Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 G2 HBC (September 2024 upgrade from Noctua NH-D15s)
  • RAM: DDR5 Corsair 64GB (5600-40 Vengeance)
  • Graphics card: ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 TUF OC GAMING (24GB) 
  • Monitor: LG 38 inch ultra-wide (21x9) - Resolution: 3840x1600
  • C-drive: Corsair MP600 PRO XT NVMe SSD 4TB (PCIe Gen. 4)
  • Video drives: Samsung NVMe SSD 2TB (980 pro and 970 EVO plus) each 2TB
  • Mass Data storage & Backup: WD gold 6TB + WD Yellow 4TB
  • MOBO: Gigabyte Z690 AORUS MASTER
  • PSU: Corsair HX1500i, Case: Fractal Design Define 7 (PCGH edition)
  • Misc.: Logitech G915, Evoluent Vertical Mouse, shuttlePROv2

 

 

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 10/24/2024, 5:20 AM

NewblueFX stabilizer does not provide good results at all.... BCC Optical Stabilizer can output decent results at times, but it is very, very slow in comparison to Mercalli.

Grazie wrote on 10/24/2024, 6:39 AM

Merc6 installed here - now!

Dexcon wrote on 10/24/2024, 7:08 AM

Merc6 installed here - now!

Presumably that's Merc 6 SAL because ProDad's website is not showing a Merc 6 plugin for Vegas Pro, only for MAGIX Video deluxe and MAGIX Video Pro X.

If Merc 6 SAL, I will be most interested to hear of your opinion of it as against Merc 4/5 SAL and/or 4/5 Vegas plugin.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 10/24/2024, 7:23 AM

Presumably that's Merc 6 SAL because ProDad's website is not showing a Merc 6 plugin for Vegas Pro, only for MAGIX Video deluxe and MAGIX Video Pro X.

I didn't see it on the website either. But, here it is, working in VP22 as a plugin!

If Merc 6 SAL,

No, this is a plugin - as it says, Plugin Type OFX.

I will be most interested to hear of your opinion of it as against Merc 4/5 SAL and/or 4/5 Vegas plugin.

My first impression is that it is blindly fast and the GUI appears to have been streamlined.

Dexcon wrote on 10/24/2024, 7:51 AM

Could you please upload a link to the ProDad website with the Merc 6 plugin for OFX - I'll give it a try.

TIA.

Cameras: Sony FDR-AX100E; GoPro Hero 11 Black Creator Edition

Installed: Vegas Pro 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 & 22, HitFilm Pro 2021.3, DaVinci Resolve Studio 19.0.3, BCC 2025, Mocha Pro 2025.0, NBFX TotalFX 7, Neat NR, DVD Architect 6.0, MAGIX Travel Maps, Sound Forge Pro 16, SpectraLayers Pro 11, iZotope RX11 Advanced and many other iZ plugins, Vegasaur 4.0

Windows 11

Dell Alienware Aurora 11:

10th Gen Intel i9 10900KF - 10 cores (20 threads) - 3.7 to 5.3 GHz

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8GB GDDR6 - liquid cooled

64GB RAM - Dual Channel HyperX FURY DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz

C drive: 2TB Samsung 990 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD

D: drive: 4TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD (used for media for editing current projects)

E: drive: 2TB Samsung 870 SATA SSD

F: drive: 6TB WD 7200 rpm Black HDD 3.5"

Dell Ultrasharp 32" 4K Color Calibrated Monitor

 

LAPTOP:

Dell Inspiron 5310 EVO 13.3"

i5-11320H CPU

C Drive: 1TB Corsair Gen4 NVMe M.2 2230 SSD (upgraded from the original 500 GB SSD)

Monitor is 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz

Grazie wrote on 10/24/2024, 8:34 AM

Could you please upload a link to the ProDad website with the Merc 6 plugin for OFX - I'll give it a try.

TIA.

No. After direct comms with Prodad, I received a direct link from them. I'm not sure it is for public disposal.

Steve_Rhoden wrote on 10/24/2024, 9:15 AM

@Grazie No. After direct comms with Prodad, I received a direct link from them. I'm not sure it is for public disposal.

That is very, very odd indeed. Because if version 6 is available for Vegas Pro, why not make it available on their website? ..... And why i say this is that they are contacted regularly by Vegas users as to when this will be available, and the response is always No, not yet.

Reyfox wrote on 10/24/2024, 9:57 AM

Yeah... I agree. This is strange. There is even no mention of the V5 Suite for Vegas; Maybe @Grazie has a beta version?

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Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300

amendegw wrote on 10/24/2024, 3:17 PM

A while back I downloaded the trial Mercalli Suite for Vegas and couldn't get it to work. I got the attached message from proDAD. You might try contacting the support person referenced. I hesitate putting his address in a text reply but you can see it in the image below.

...Jerry

PS: I didn't follow up my non-working trial so I can't be of much help.

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Installed Memory: 64.0 GB
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Reyfox wrote on 10/24/2024, 3:20 PM

Whenever I've tried a trial version of a proDAD product, I would get basically the same email. I'd ask for a price, and usually it was much less than the website.

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32GB DDR4 3200

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Gigabyte X570 Elite Motherboard

Panasonic G9, G7, FZ300