I don't see one dumb question posted today so...

Randy Brown wrote on 11/16/2002, 2:03 PM
let me be the first. Is it safe to "compress drive to save space" under disk properties (WinXP)? While I'm on a roll, my C drive with VV3 and various audio apps is NTFS (66 gb)and my other drive with VV3 temp folder and various audio data is Fat 32 (38 gb). I just captured a 40 minute single clip and it split it up into two 4,182,479 kb clips and one smaller one. They play fine when added to the timeline, but my 2nd dumb question is, would you change anything?
Thanks for your patience,
Randy

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BillyBoy wrote on 11/16/2002, 2:28 PM
Generally it isn't that good an idea to compress your root partition (C) because that's where your operating system normally is located. You can compress your other partitions. D, E, etc.. I use to do it way back in the days of Stacker (anyone remember that?) but with the prices on drives so low today there really isn't much need. The technology is safe enough...however if something does go wrong (rare, but it can) you run the risk of losing EVERYTHING on that partition. I speak from experience, happened to me once) I haven't used it for years, but way back when the method used was in effect to write one giant file. So that compressed volume was really a single compressed file with markers indicating where your actual files stated and ended. If something bad happens you could lose everything in the volume from the point of the corruption to the end of the volume. So your risk is much greater if something bad happens. Instead of losing a file, you can lose some or all of the files in the compressed partition, assuming they still do it that way.

So OK if want to risk it and have good backups. If not, I would go with a additional drive. I don't think you can compress NTFS drives, if my memory serves, it only works with FAT 32 or earlier.
Randy Brown wrote on 11/16/2002, 2:41 PM
Thanks BillyBoy, for this and all of your contributions you and the other gurus make to this great forum!
Randy
Jason_Abbott wrote on 11/16/2002, 7:13 PM
The Win NT/2K/XP compression is much nicer than what we had in the Stacker days. If you're in need of space and not ready to buy a drive yet, you can compress inidividual files and directories rather than whole drives. When I've been in that situation I've done a search for all *.txt, *.ini, *.ttf, *.doc, *.log, etc. files and selected them all in the search results, right-clicked and activated compression for them. There's not much point to compressing most binary files since they rarely get any smaller. File properties will show you the compressed verses regular size, so you can experiment.

With the listed OS's, the performance hit of decompression while using the files is so low as to be considered zero (as of my reading some time ago).

- Jason
BillyBoy wrote on 11/16/2002, 9:43 PM
That's nice to know... I'll have to try it sometime. I'm kind of spoiled now, with about 600GB disk space about half free. LOL!
John_Cline wrote on 11/17/2002, 4:34 AM
Under NO circumstances would you want to compress a drive that contains video or audio files. First of all, because of the random nature of the data, they don't compress well at all. Secondly, it would seriously slow down file transfer speeds, which would be completely undesirable for video and audio files.

As was suggested earlier, you can compress individual files and folders on your NTFS drives and that may save some space depending on how "compressable" the files are.

John
Randy Brown wrote on 11/17/2002, 7:31 AM
I checked out some HDs this morning; I didn't realize you can get a 120 gb, 7200 rpm (Western Digital)for $210 and an 80 gb, 7200 (Seagate)for only $115 (both at Tigerdirect.com). Since the only thing taking up any substantial space are my audio and video files and John has pointed out (thank goodness) to not compress them "under no circumstances" my answer is obvious. Thanks guys!
Randy
bdunn wrote on 11/17/2002, 8:33 AM
I picked up one of WD 120G Special Edition (8M Cache) drives a couple a months ago
at Bestbuy. On the web they're showing them for $199 and the standard 120G for $189.
Haven't checked today's sale papers yet. (Not associated with Bestbuy).
Jason_Abbott wrote on 11/17/2002, 3:05 PM
Randy,

You might also find some benefit in running something like Easy Cleaner. It simply finds old temp files. It removed over 200MB from my not-very-old computer. Perhaps not a lot relevant to DV but it couldn't hurt. It will also clean the registry but I'm afraid to run that part of it.

- Jason