I have a multicam edit project

Cooldraft wrote on 11/11/2002, 1:03 PM

Is there a way to put a marker on just ONE track so that I can align the markers up? I have two angles and I think it would be good to watch the cameras one at a time and make markers, then line them up together later. Let me know if there is a better way. Ps. I can not "align" the cameras at the beginning cause the two cameras stopped/started recoding at various times during the event.

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Summersond wrote on 11/11/2002, 1:07 PM

It has been mentioned before that if you watch the tape, there could be a distinct noise, or camera flash on the clip that you could easily use to sync up a track with another. I havent had the need to do this yet, but it sounds very easy to do.

dave

jetdv wrote on 11/11/2002, 1:26 PM

In your case, I always align the separate sections at the beginning of each section. So, if I was taping a wedding reception, I might have several alignments: at the beginning of the toasts, at the beginning of multiple dances... I always align each section separately (and usually wait until I get to that section to do so.)

Cooldraft wrote on 11/11/2002, 4:08 PM

I know how to align. I just want track markers to make it easier.

pdmath wrote on 11/11/2002, 8:07 PM

I was trying to do the same thing recently. It appears that you can not add a marker to individual tracks....but at the beginning of each clip there is a little white triangle in the lower left corner that can be slid down (just left click hold and move it with the mouse)...so that you can place it where you want. Also, if you split a clip, a new marker will appear at the left edge that you can adjust again...so it's kind of like adding a marker.

Phil

HeeHee wrote on 11/11/2002, 8:55 PM

I wouldn't worry about marks on seperate tracks, there are only project markers. All you really need to do is go through first camera and press the "M" where you want a camera change. Keep doing this until you have gone through as much of the first camera as you want. Then edit the marker labels for the first camera as "1", "cam1", or something to that effect. Now go back to the beginning of the events, mute the first camera and start the process over for the second camera. You will see where the markers are for the first camera so as not to put scene changes there. You can then rename these "2", or "cam2" or whatever so it references the second camera.

It makes it more difficult that you do not have continuous video as far as syncing up the shots. It is very important to keep the camera rolling during the ceremony and during toasts and other parts where a specific person is talking. Shots of the crowd and dancing isn't as important to sync up.

swarrine wrote on 11/11/2002, 9:16 PM

If I understand you correctly, you want to set markers for ID purposes. You could put each cam on its own instance of Vegas. Then mark each sequence on each instance - then match like sequnces & transfer to a master.

So, if you have the start of a song, then you can mark each cam start of song XXX. On your master you drag everything that has start of song XXX. Synch and choose the cuts you want...

Tyler.Durden wrote on 11/12/2002, 5:36 AM

Hi Cooldraft,

You might also consider making markers and regions in the trimmer...

Play each segment and set regions in the trimmer, then drag those up to the TL to snap to your Project markers there.

The markers and regions can be saved with the media, so if you start a new project using the same footage, they will already be in the trimmer.

HTH, MPH

Cooldraft wrote on 12/18/2002, 5:04 PM

So you are saying that I can mark the 4 camera captures with trimmer and when I drag it up to the TL the makers wil stay?

Tyler.Durden wrote on 12/18/2002, 7:00 PM

Hi CD,

What you can do with marked regions in the trimmer is to select regions that will match regions in your TL.

i.e. If you mark verse-1 as a region in the TL, then mark verse-1 in each shot in the trimmer, you can then know where to find verse-1 from any shot.

It will be easier to sync-up your footage on the TL tho. Even if you stopped and started cameras mid-tune, you can still line them up to the audio track (including the gaps) and really know what coverage you have. (This is very common when shooting and editing film, since film rolls are sorta short compared to video)

MPH

bakerja wrote on 12/19/2002, 10:31 AM

I have devised a time saving feature for multicam shoots that saves buckets of time. First it requires that all cameras run continuously. (I understand that this did not happen in this case, but for future projects, try this!)

Put all angles on separate tracks, establish sync. Then render each track to a new .avi file. This gives each file a new tc stamp that starts at 0:00:00:00. Open a new veg file and use the newly rendered files as source. I put the most important camera angle on the top track and the others on subsequent tracks in order of importance. Cut sections out as needed to let the lower tracks play through. (remember to turn off ripple) Sync is maintained throughout the timeline and if you inadvertantly move an event, you can easily get it back in sync by using the time stamp. I have 4 multicam projects that I am using this method on and it makes editing a breeze. Another tip, toggle solo on each track to view only that angle while making camera descisions.

Works for me!
JAB