I Now Can't render MPGEG2s ?

Grazie wrote on 9/28/2005, 8:13 AM

I've installed V6c and DVDA3c and I now - arrgghhh - get intermittent Vegas total failures, ranging from 2% to 11%. I get the "Vegas has encountered a problem and will now need to shut down. We are sorry for the inconvenience" . . or something along those lines.

I've tried the templates for "DVD Architect PAL Video stream" and straight "DVD PAL" - and apart from one render, both with equal failure.

I have done the usual available to an end user, defrag and housekeeping and the like, here I stand wishing I hadn't updated.

Oh yes, I CAN render AVIs without any problem at all. I'm only having MPEG issues AND SINCE installing the Vegas6c and DVDA3c.

Help!

Grazie

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BrianStanding wrote on 9/29/2005, 1:42 PM
Grazie,

Does this happen on all projects or only one in particular?
Mahesh wrote on 9/29/2005, 2:27 PM
I sent you an email
Grazie wrote on 9/29/2005, 11:37 PM
BS - Different projects. So it isn't one particular project's fault.

Mahesh - Thank you.

I really want to get this working.

I've had DVDA and Vegas working previously - it should be working now. Nothing to do with MPEG2 encoding is working now - V6,V5,or V4 or DVDA3.

I am getting some remarkable, attentive and thorough support from Sony in helping me - you know who you are! They are still trying.

Best regards,

Grazie
PeterWright wrote on 9/30/2005, 3:29 AM
Sorry, no solution, but hang in there Grazie.

I had almost the same symptoms with V5 just before V6 came out - never did find out what caused it, but it spontaneously went away around the time of V6, so I hope yours does extremely soonly!
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 5:02 AM
Thanks Peter,

Maybe I should wait till V7 - " but it spontaneously went away around the time of V6 . . "

What IS truly galling, is the fact that I had all the products working in tip top condition; bit of rendering here, bit of DVD menuing there; but for updating to V6c, I would still be up and running! I now can't use anything that has MPEG2 in the title.

Until I know to the contrary, it is NOT V6c here that is the problem - let me make that clear - others appear NOT to be getting this problem, but it is the sheer fact of the updating and its process on MY pc that has gone south. And it is "limited" or firewalled to anything MPEG2 - AVI renders are fine.

In the meantime I WILL burn DVDs in another software package. Oh yes!

As I say, SONY and one person in particular there, has been a real brick in helping me out. Anybody that can take Grazie through the intricacies of UN-installs, 10 steps in all; rummaging about in the REGISTRY ( ugghhh! ) - something that the World should keep me WELL away from - and the final reinstall of V6c at 2:00am local London time, has to get SOME kinda reward! Speak to Edward, SPOT or Kelly about my level of IT competence.

Anyways, I'm waiting for The "MADDERS" ( Madison - get it?) to arise and set forth upon this new day, full of opportunity and blue horizons . . . .

Grazie

JJKizak wrote on 9/30/2005, 5:56 AM
Bad news is you are going to end up re-installing everything anyway. That's the nature of the beast. (Gates Folly) (China Low Quality Syndrome) (Bean Counter Says "No More Money")
I had the same problem with V6.0a and then V6.0b solved it. I have no problem with V6.0c. This is with XP Pro SP2. V6.0c was a clean install by itself. If you re-install make sure you double zero all of your drives as there is always a bunch of hidden info that is retained even after formating. This info will come back to haunt you. But then again I am usually wrong.

JJK
fldave wrote on 9/30/2005, 8:41 AM
Just a thought, have you reinstalled the latest Microsoft .Net?

Dave
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 8:58 AM
Why? - G
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 9:00 AM
Should I or Shouldn't I? - G
fldave wrote on 9/30/2005, 9:02 AM
I thought one of the latest versions of Vegas (6a or 6b) required the latest .NET runtime. Something could have gotten corrupted there.
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 9:32 AM
Good point! - Well I have been running V6 successfully it is the "Cs" for V6 and DVDA3 that I'm having issues. I did authoring via DVDA3 no sweat! Now, needing the newer .NET I'd agree with IF I'd encountered any issues prior. I haven't I didn't . .but NOW I have the latest .NET and I still can't MPEG2.

But thank you Dave.

Grazie
fldave wrote on 9/30/2005, 9:43 AM
It was worth a try. Another thought: have you run tried to run one of the memory load tester programs? Just possible that one of your memory cards is going bad, just happens to coincide with the upgrade, or the newer Main Concept encoder is working it differently and accessing a bad area.

I just tried several MPEG2 renders in various settings and am having no problem.
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 10:11 AM
"It was worth a try." . . yes of course!


" . . have you run tried to run one of the memory load tester programs? " . nope, but once I'm "done" with Sony s/w support, hardware WOULD be the next thing.

"Just possible that one of your memory cards is going bad, just happens to coincide with the upgrade, or the newer Main Concept encoder is working it differently and accessing a bad area." . .all these things are possible . .oh yes!

"I just tried several MPEG2 renders in various settings and am having no problem." Thank you for report this .. and I'm happy for you! Just wish this never happens to you! It is a right royal pain in the nether regions.

Grazie 8(
fldave wrote on 9/30/2005, 10:17 AM
I've heard this works well:

http://www.memtest86.com/
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 10:26 AM
You've heard, but never used it? Hmmm .. . ok.

I'll d/l it now.

G
fldave wrote on 9/30/2005, 10:47 AM
People on this board have recommended it before.

I just looked on my newest machine in the back room and I do have it on there. I ran it after I built it.
JJKizak wrote on 9/30/2005, 12:09 PM
The memory thing is a real possiblity as I just changed mine because of some memory dumps, and that might have been causing the initial problems with V6.

JJK
MyST wrote on 9/30/2005, 12:31 PM
Have you tried doing a System Restore to a date before this all started happening?
Just a thought...

Mario
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 1:05 PM
I can only BOGGLE at the issues of doing a Sys Restore with this new s/w update in place. I don't have sys restore on the NLE deck. The builders of this machine advised against it? Go figure!

G
fldave wrote on 9/30/2005, 3:37 PM
Still having problems Grazie?
Grazie wrote on 9/30/2005, 10:51 PM


Dave? Thank you - I went to bed! I was extremely tired and extremely tired of this happening. And yes, I can render an AVI of the same 1.5 hour AVI, no problem. But when I render an MPEG2 of the very same AVI, Vegas can not complete the operation, and forces a closure on the process. Vegas is still responsive - it says this in Task Manager, but the actual MPEG2 encoding is ceased, and Vegas tells me it has to close.

What have I done? Well, with the assistance and patience of a Sony Madison support person, we deleted Vegas and ACIP Pro5 and reinstalled both packages, along with .NET framework. So both "C" updates are in place and at least I can get on with editing - I just can't use MPEG2 stuff from this pc; I can't use and design DVD Menus; I can't make layer menus with any sense of security. Good eh? All this I had under the "B" versions of DVDA3 and Vegas.




Grazie
fldave wrote on 10/1/2005, 8:26 AM
Well, it sounds like you have narrowed it down to DVDA / MainConcept. I understand that the Main Concept encoder is included in DVD Architect, not Vegas. So I bet your Vegas install is solid.

Can you just go back to 3b of DVDA to see if the problem clears Vegas 6c MPEG up? Not sure if Sony would recommend it, or what you would loose, except for new features in DVDA and MPEG optimizations. But this entire line of product cooexists fairly well with older versions (Vegas 4,5,6; DVDA 1,2,3).

You might get back to a semi-normal workflow until you have time to experiment later.

Edited: One more thought, are you on XP SP2 or stil on SP1? That may be the problem. Go to SP2.
Grazie wrote on 10/1/2005, 10:08 AM
Good advice Dave,

"I understand that the Main Concept encoder is included in DVD Architect, not Vegas. " - Weill I think one can render to MPEG2 from just Vegas if you DON'T even have DVDA. So where is the MC encoder there then?

"One more thought, are you on XP SP2 or stil on SP1? That may be the problem. Go to SP2. " . .well... where does it say I must install SP2 for Vegas"C" to work with the new install?

Grazie
fldave wrote on 10/1/2005, 10:20 AM
Not sure about the Vegas mpeg without DVDA - maybe Forum Admin can clarify.

I thought I read where SP2 was required for v6. I just looked up the system requirements here:
http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/Products/showproduct.asp?PID=965&FeatureID=8209

and it says "Microsoft® Windows® 2000, XP Home, or XP Professional (Windows XP SP2 required for HDV)".

So it's needed for HDV. I wonder if Madison or Main Concept "mistakenly" used a new SP2 feature in version C that now makes SP2 required for regular SD encoding?

edited: added the word "mistakenly"