I think I found what I wana do video wise

XTREEMMAK wrote on 10/9/2003, 2:15 PM

Untill I get more people in the company for possible video productions (distant future) I think I may invest in making music videos and or commercials. Now I've been looking at a few cameras by JVC on there web site. One that specifically caught my eye was the GY-DV5000U 3-CCD Camcorder, for around $1,388 . Would this be a good camera for commercial and music video recording? I dont want to have to get those expensive $22 or $55 thousand dollar cameras just to these as of now.

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GaryKleiner wrote on 10/9/2003, 3:16 PM

>GY-DV5000U 3-CCD Camcorder, for around $1,388 .<

What currency is that? In US dollars, it is in the $4,500 -$5,000 range.

Gary

XTREEMMAK wrote on 10/9/2003, 3:30 PM

I saw it on the JVC site listed for that price though

Jsnkc wrote on 10/9/2003, 3:35 PM

YEah, I know for a fact that that camera isn't $1300. I would look into the Canon GL2 or XL1s, or maybe even one of the new Panasonic 24p cameras.

Jsnkc wrote on 10/9/2003, 3:45 PM

According to this page on the JVC site it is $4995 MSRP

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/list_price.jsp?tree=&model_id=MDL101367&itempath=&feature_id=00

XTREEMMAK wrote on 10/9/2003, 4:30 PM

No no no that's the wrong model. Here this is the one I was talking about lol

http://pro.jvc.com/prof/Attributes/list_price.jsp?tree=&model_id=MDL101380&itempath=&feature_id=00

Jsnkc wrote on 10/9/2003, 4:43 PM

That's not the price for the camera, that's a hard drive module that connects to the camera allowing you to record to the hard drive instead of tapes.

The DR-DV5000 is designed to mount directly to your GY-DV5000U and turn it into a DV disk camcorder
(from the item description)

XTREEMMAK wrote on 10/9/2003, 5:10 PM

OHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh lol Silly me lol. I checked out the Canon GL2 like you told me, it looks like a good camera, but I havent checked for the 4:2 ratio thing yet. But this camera should give me the standard needed to record commercials and music videos?

Jsnkc wrote on 10/9/2003, 5:15 PM

Yeah, I recently got my GL2, for $1788 after rebate and it is a great camera. It will give you great video for commercials and music videos and things like that. If you want a step up also look at the XL1s, that is the next step up. Also Canon is offing a $250 rebate on the GL2 through the rest of the year I believe as long as you purchase the camera new from a Canon authorised dealer.

XTREEMMAK wrote on 10/9/2003, 5:25 PM

I just watched the interactive video as well. It's a very impressive camera. I think I'ma invest in getting that one. It's nice :) Well I guess I'd better start my music lessons lol. So you said Cannon with the rebate for this year offered it at $1788. I may look into that. Do you know anyone with anymore rebates?

Jsnkc wrote on 10/9/2003, 5:52 PM

I don't know of anyone else that has rebates going on right now, and I didn't get the camera directly from Canon, I got it from a Canon Dealer.

http://www.willoughbys.com/shop/Product.asp?ProdTypeList=3050&Sku=30501799

FuTz wrote on 10/9/2003, 6:09 PM

Anybody got feedback about the Sony DSR-PX10?

rextilleon wrote on 10/9/2003, 6:35 PM

Yeah--excellent--different pic then the GL2 --I think its a matter of taste---the 16:9 is pretty damn good too--why dont you a-b the cameras. Xtreemmak, you have several options---why dont you go see whats out there before deciding on the GL2

J_Mac wrote on 10/9/2003, 10:05 PM

Check out Digital Liquidators. http://www.digitalliquidators.com/results.asp for NTSC. Pal is much higher. Good luck John

Grazie wrote on 10/10/2003, 12:51 AM

XM2 here - Love it!

IMHO - Go to the best site on anything Canon/Sony cammies. Lots of comparisons and examples too. Chat and technical support. Exactly what you appear to beafter, if you are in the research mode. "Decide in haste, Repent at liesure!" - it aint that bad, but it is probably what you are thinking - yeah?

I took my laptop into the shop and had the option of capturing directly to the HD via the f/w setup, just to confirm the linkages AND see what the quality was like. I think I also stuck a small intriguing example up on the Chienworks site . . . . and that's another thing Kelly's site must have lots of examples of cammie work quality for you to check out to - sorry Kells, must be making your site servewr work over time - hahaha!

I wouldn't buy a secondhand cammie.

Grazie

Chanimal wrote on 10/10/2003, 1:06 AM

I have purchased two GL2's. Great camera. I prefer it over the XL1's since it is significantly cheaper, has most of the exact same features, has better resolution and has an LCD, versus the viewfinder, which really requires an external monitor. It doesn't have the interchangable lens, but I haven't needed it so far--although I have purchased several filters (do NOT buy them when you buy the camera--get them at a Wolfs or chain camera store and they will be LOT cheaper).

Regarding the source, watch out for the Internet scams for this camera. One place (Bilibi) offers the lowest price, but will keep calling you back to buy the extras (lens, etc.). When you refuse, they tell you its out of stock--a racket. I turned them into the BBS, the state scam investigation team, and thought I would slam them in the review areas--only to find out EVERYONE already did, I hadn't checked.

I eventually purchased for $200 over the scam place and still came out ahead without having to pick up all the junk. Good luck.

Grazie wrote on 10/10/2003, 2:35 AM

XTREEMMAK . . . sorry forgot to give you the site I was speaking of:

Son of Watchdog Canon XM2 and GL2

. . grazie

XTREEMMAK wrote on 10/10/2003, 7:12 AM

Thanx alot :)
I think I have my research abouts me lol. So far I like the GL2, but I'll definatly keep looking to see what's better out there (and cheaper lol). Good, fast, and great results. That's why I luv dis board lol.

Laurence wrote on 10/10/2003, 8:59 AM

I love my Sony VX-2000. What sold me on it was the 1/3 inch CCDs and the resulting low light performance. A large CCD camera picture looks good outside well into the twilight hours. Indoor shots without extra lighting look good as well. If you are planning to light everything, a small CCD camera like a Canon XL-1, GM-2 or Sony DSR-PX10 can look great. If you're relying on existing light though I'd get something with the bigger 1/3 inch CCDs like the VX-2000 or PD-150. Try this: put a 1/4 inch GM-2 and a 1/3 inch VX-2000 side by side in the camera store. Point both at a dark corner of the store and look at the difference in the picture. The difference is stunning. The 1/3 inch CCDs will give you a useable picture, the 1/4 inc CCDs will not.

Laurence Kingston

Arks wrote on 10/10/2003, 9:50 AM

PANASONIC AG-DVX100.

If you can afford one of these, you will NOT be disappointed. For Music Videos and commercials (where you have control of the light), the panny's 24p cannot be beat. (I will never give up this camera I love it so much =P)

On the otherhand, I'm thinking of getting a GL2 for live events to have as another angle, that would be perfect (and its not a bank buster).

good luck with whatever you choose, just remember... the equipment can only take you so far, you need the know how and the eye to make visually stimulating projects

Brian Artka
http://www.influx-media.com

Jsnkc wrote on 10/10/2003, 10:37 AM

"you need the know how and the eye to make visually stimulating projects"

Another great point, even if you have the best camera in the world, it won't do you a lot of good if you don't know what you're doing. When you're sitting at home watching TV, or out at the movies, pay close attention to how the cameras move and how they frame scenes and the lighting they use and things like that. It's hard to believe, but actually sitting on your butt watching TV can generate some great ideas when it comes to video production. Also check if any of your local tech scools offer video courses. I went to a 1 year program for radio and TV Broadcasting and it has helped a lot! I also know there are tons of books out there that can help as well.

XTREEMMAK wrote on 10/10/2003, 11:38 PM

Yeo I do that as well. One effect that I was marveled by (even though it was a sub par movie) was the train light effect in DareDevil. Even as bright as the train light was, it didn't distort,flare or anything to the camera :)

SonyEPM wrote on 10/13/2003, 8:55 AM

"Anybody got feedback about the Sony DSR-PX10?"

I shot quite a bit with the PDX10 this weekend- EXCELLENT for 16:9, really good in low light.

bigceejay wrote on 10/13/2003, 2:46 PM

i have the canon XL1S(3,100.00 to 4,100.00) and i'm doing the same thing and its working out fine.the canon gl2 is a nice user friendly camera also(2,200.00 to 2,900.00)panasonic has an 24p thats getting good reviews not sure of the price but i think is around 3,200.00