I want to use effects with music like VSDC

debojitacharjee wrote on 2/16/2024, 12:06 AM

I am using VSDC video editor to make a video flicker and zoom in/out along with a music track. Also I am able to insert a audio spectrum on a video. But can that be possible using Vegas Pro.

I have attached the sample video here.

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Dexcon wrote on 2/16/2024, 1:01 AM

You'll probably need to look at some of BorisFX's Continuum FX which have a Beat Reactor feature and which would be able to achieve what you are seeking. There are many BorisFX tutorials about using Beat Reactor on YouTube - this is just one of them:

BorisFX's BCC has a free trial so you can test it out - https://borisfx.com/products/continuum/?product=continuum&host=adobe&purchase-options=new-annual-subscription - you'll need the OFX version which includes Vegas Pro compatibility.

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debojitacharjee wrote on 2/16/2024, 11:01 PM

Why should I use a third party trialware if I am getting a free tool like this on VSDC?

I was expecting a free OFX for Vegas Pro.

DMT3 wrote on 2/16/2024, 11:02 PM

If VSDC does what you want, why do you need Vegas to do it?

Dexcon wrote on 2/17/2024, 4:40 AM

I was expecting a free OFX for Vegas Pro.

Have you done a Google/Bing search for free video OFX? I got only one hit which offered a free OFX package but it turned out to be a free NLE (ShotCut), not an OFX plugin package. If there are free OFX plugins out there, it looks like that they're as rare as hens' teeth.

You've used the Vegas Effects category for your post which suggests that you have VEGAS Effects, a program based on HitFilm Pro that is part of the Vegas POST package (though somehow I suspect you don't have POST). But if you do, VEGAS Effects has inbuilt an audio animation VFX that will do a lot of what you want in regards to the animated audio meter effect.

As per @DMT3 ...

If VSDC does what you want, why do you need Vegas to do it?

It's not uncommon for other NLEs or similar to be used to achieve an effect not natively available in the main NLE and ithen import the export/render into Vegas Pro (or whatever the main NLE is). I and others on the forum do this from time-to-time.

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mark-y wrote on 2/17/2024, 9:46 PM

Why should I use a third party trialware if I am getting a free tool like this on VSDC?

I was expecting a free OFX for Vegas Pro.

A more effective way to present your idea might be to start a new thread, rephrase your suggestion without the word "expecting", and include the words [Feature Request] in the title. Do this in the Vegas Video forum, as Vegas Effects is a separate addon program from New Blue, not Magix.

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MikeS wrote on 2/18/2024, 4:57 AM

>Vegas Effects is a separate addon program from New Blue
Minor correction - it's a version of FXhome's (now owned by Artlist UK Limited) Hitfilm Pro compositor component

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debojitacharjee wrote on 2/19/2024, 11:29 PM

>Vegas Effects is a separate addon program from New Blue
Minor correction - it's a version of FXhome's (now owned by Artlist UK Limited) Hitfilm Pro compositor component

I think Vegas Pro should include all the effects available in VSDC to keep up with the market competition.

fr0sty wrote on 2/20/2024, 1:21 AM

No other pro NLE comes standard with an audio reactor. That said, it has been brought up to the development team in the past, but I wouldn't expect it in the short-term.

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Reyfox wrote on 2/22/2024, 7:59 AM

Use what works for you in the video you want to create.

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Former user wrote on 2/22/2024, 8:25 AM

Boris have Beat Reactor in a lot of the fx's within the Continuum package which all work in Vegas, they use a separate external audio file & only affect the fx that Beat Reactor is built in to.

Boris/Continuum also has an fx that's just called Beat Reactor, this fx when added to an event affects the already fx/fx's added to that events (can't remember specifics) using a chosen audio track that is on the timeline but this fx only shows in Adobe AE (maybe other editors) but not in Vegas, I sort of remember Boris saying that it doesn't work in Vegas because of the way Vegas works it can't read the audio on the other timeline tracks.

If Boris can't get this to work as a separate fx it can't be easy.. or maybe it's just not easy to make the Boris fx work in Vegas without a serious re-write which then would affect how it works in other editors. .

Reyfox wrote on 2/22/2024, 12:57 PM

@Former user the OP wants this all for free... My recommendation and others is to use VSDC, since this will never make it into Vegas in the near or distant future.

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Former user wrote on 2/22/2024, 1:03 PM

@Reyfox Hmm yeah, the OP makes it sound like all except Vegas has this included, but as @fr0sty says how many NLE actually do inc this, I only have Vegas & what i can remember about AE to go on..

Reyfox wrote on 2/22/2024, 1:37 PM

@Former user, looking at Continuum with Beat Reactor included in a lot of the plugins, I can see that this feature is one that is popular. I've tried it, but have no use of it at the moment. But I can understand others wanting this feature.

The choice is simple. Continuum or VSDC. I'd use what works, export and then continue to edit in Vegas. But that's "me".

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Former user wrote on 2/22/2024, 2:11 PM

@Reyfox @Former user Capcut has something called auto beat sync, it lays down markers to assist the editor which is more in line with a pro editor, rather then do it all for you. 2 options, major beats or minor beats. In Capcut at least it's main used for transitions and speed ramping. Example

Also VegasPro did AI colorize years ago, it may still be the only NLE that does even in 2024 so a useful and good feature doesn't necessarily have to exist in an NLE already😀

OP I will look at this VSDC, I like trying out these free editors. I have not heard of this one

Reyfox wrote on 2/22/2024, 3:12 PM

@Former user I've heard about data mining to the Chinese with CapCut, so I stay away from it. And while that is a nice feature, I can put beat markers down with Vegasaur.

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Former user wrote on 2/22/2024, 3:18 PM

if you're famous or plan to visit China I'd be cautious about using it (just a feeling)

john-brown wrote on 2/23/2024, 12:24 PM

@debojitacharjee

Hi,

Interesting.

Why should I use a third party trialware if I am getting a free tool like this on VSDC?

I was expecting a free OFX for Vegas Pro.

I presume that you are using the paid version of VSDC because it doesn't look like the free version doesn't do the music visualization that you show, as far as I can tell. This is a selling point of that software. As others have mentioned, most video editing programs don't have this feature.

For anyone interested, here is what they say and a link to the details:

We’ve developed “Edit the beat” for those working with music videos. Using this tool, you can synchronize any effect parameter with the sound of the beat. Apply it to create a dynamic audio spectrum, beautiful music visualization, text “dancing” to the rhythm, or any other music animation you can imagine.

If you’re curious how it works, here is a quick breakdown. When you activate the Edit the beat mode, VSDC scans the waveform of the selected audio and generates a rhythm graph based on the sound values - such as frequency and intensity. Each value is represented by a control point. The rhythm graph is then applied to the values of the effect of your choice.

In other words, it creates a curve of the waveform with keyframes on highs and lows, or something like that. This curve is then used with a video effect that you select and applied to your image, text, object or video event.

An alternative is to use another program or music visualizer from the internet. Some internet-based sites will do this for you. A program called AEON from SoundSpectrum will give you a visualizer when playing back music. You can do a video screen capture and use that. The only problem is that it's for private use only; you have to ask for permission for other use.

Or, playback the audio with an audio visualizer screen open, like an EQ or spectrogram and capture the playback. Edit.

For more, get the bpm on the timeline, and create your own envelope of effects using the beats.

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Reyfox wrote on 2/23/2024, 12:33 PM

@debojitacharjee, so it does seem that Edit The Beat is a paid feature and not free as you previously stated.

Why should I use a third party trialware if I am getting a free tool like this on VSDC?

I was expecting a free OFX for Vegas Pro.

Sometimes you have to pay for what you want.....

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Former user wrote on 2/23/2024, 1:21 PM

@Reyfox Hi n hmmm? I sort of agree but there's 2 sides to that, If you pay for the full pro version of a program & this fx is a built in feature then it isn't a paid for 'extra' fx but it's not 'a free tool' either..

I agree with everyone, this is a feature that may well be in VSDC but from my past searches (This topic has been posted before) it appears this isn't a common feature in most or all other NLE's & so the OP is wrong in their presumption/frustration of it's lack in Vegas.

I'd like the OP to come back with All the NLE's that do have this feature or even just plugins that do this whether paid for or not.

Reyfox wrote on 2/23/2024, 3:17 PM

@Former user the impression I got from the OP post never mentioned the paid version, mentioning "free" tool. It isn't free, but included with the purchase of the paid version. It's like saying Mocha Vegas is "free". It's not free and is included in a higher price version of Vegas.

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john-brown wrote on 2/23/2024, 3:53 PM

@Reyfox

Hi,

Like @Former user my impression was that since it came with the paid version, it was free, meaning "included." The OP was surmising that a similar tool should be included in Vegas, meaning free, not as a paid-for add-on. Just a poor choice of wording.

I forgot to mention the price of VSDC - $40.43CAD. Not expensive for anyone who wants just that feature.

There is another potential program that could be used, but it costs a bit, and that is BluffTitler. In BT, you need the BPM. The VJ effect on the visual is BPM-based. Unfortunately, there is no link between volume and intensity of effects, something that VSDC has perfected. One could always keyframe them in manually, I guess.

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Reyfox wrote on 2/24/2024, 1:49 PM

@john-brown, I haven't found a "one editor that does everything" yet. I have several on my computer and use the one that does a certain "job" to make my life easier. If I wanted that effect, and buying Boris is out of the question, the cost of VSDC to get that effect is inexpensive. That's why I said use it. You can make a feature request for Vegas to have it in the future, but I wouldn't hold my breath on it happening any time soon. So go and spend the money, get VSDC and do "your thing" if that is the effect you want.

Some rave about CapCut and it's background removal. So get it and use it until maybe Vegas has the same tool.

As for the OP's wording, we can all speculate on it's meaning. I go by what was written in addition to the other words in that post. That he was expecting a free OFX for Vegas.

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