Idea for envelope upgrade

Brandon Freeman wrote on 10/17/2007, 12:28 PM
So, I had a quick idea that would be really cool. If you created an audio envelope, the audio tracks that it covers would visibly show the effects of the volume change, like when you change the gain on an audio track. Then I could see at all times where audio envelopes need to be so that audio remains consistent for event DVDs and the like.

Thoughts?

Comments

pwppch wrote on 10/17/2007, 7:22 PM
You mix with your eyes not your ears?!?

If you are not interested in a dynamic range, just a consistent "volume", just slap a compressor/limiter on the master bus and assure that you gain was never over or under a specific level. You would squash any dynamic range and assure that everything was "consistent".

Peter
xberk wrote on 10/17/2007, 7:52 PM
>>I could see at all times where audio envelopes need to be so that audio remains consistent

In a perfect world all audio would be recorded equal.
But in this world, an't so...hence sound mixers were created.

As was mentioned above, ears not eyes control the world of sound
precisely because all audio is NOT created equally.

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Grazie wrote on 10/17/2007, 10:48 PM
. . and a decent set of monitors.

http://www.edirol.net/products/en/MA-15D/images.htmlI use these Edirol by Roland: MA-15D Digital Stereo Micro Monitors [/link]. Not a lot of money. Used by many. Once experienced, I was astounded. I quickly realised how embarrassed I was at my previous attempts. I wanted to go back over 5 years of projects and re-mix everything! I can now HEAR what Compression does. I can HEAR the depth of reverb. I can HEAR unbalanced channels. I can HEAR quality and timbre that I wasn't aware of before and I now know my projects benefit from the result of having a decent pair of monitors.

We do what we do . . .

Grazie
DJPadre wrote on 10/18/2007, 4:24 AM
it does.. if u show autoation conrol you can see the sliders scroll up and down, much like a yamaha 01v hehehehe slide up and down...ooooooo theres a ghost in the studio!!!
Jay M wrote on 10/18/2007, 2:35 PM
Are you suggesting that the graphic representation should change to reflect how it sounds- ie, as you raise the volume, the waveform gets bigger? Some software does this and it is very helpful! Another thing that Nuendo and some other programs do that is very useful is the ability to magnify the waveform so it is easier to edit quiet areas.

It may sound more romatic to mix with your ears only, but when you can use both eyes and ears to mix you can work better and faster. We have had meters for years in the audio world. Speaking of meters, wouldn't it be cool to have combination RMS and Peak meters? I rely heavily on the meters on my RME soundcard to make sure the levels are consistant. Meters are more consistant than my ears ;)

~Jay