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MJhig wrote on 3/30/2004, 3:10 PM
Basically you can't with Vegas. Vegas has an AC-3 encoder but not an AC-3 decoder.

You will have to use third party software to break the .Vob apart.

MJ
karch35 wrote on 3/31/2004, 10:19 AM
so what should i break the .vob file into??? and then when i import into vegas and render it, how can i make sure that it re-encodes the .ac3 file correctly??

thanks
MJhig wrote on 3/31/2004, 10:37 AM
I'm going to leave you on your own here as this activity is associated with bootlegging protected material. Sony is not about hacking DVDs.

MJ
karch35 wrote on 3/31/2004, 2:01 PM
Well i don't know if this is labeled as hacking or not.... But I'm not looking to sell this and make money. I'm looking to make my own movie of clips that I like, sort of like a trailer disc. If u can help me with this than great, if not i understand.

thanks
Spheris wrote on 4/1/2004, 1:53 AM
virtualdubmod will open a vob mpeg2 and ac3 and allow you to save it as an avi. search for it through google. it is an open source application and not a hackers tool.
Frenchy wrote on 4/1/2004, 9:46 AM
I've heard of some success if you rename the vob with an mpg extension, then try to open in Vegas. Also, check out the "tools" section at vcdhelp.com. Specifically smartripper - freeware

johnmeyer wrote on 4/1/2004, 12:25 PM
I'm going to leave you on your own here as this activity is associated with bootlegging protected material. Sony is not about hacking DVDs.

I wish people wouldn't assume so much. Virtually everyone is taking video they have created with their camcorders and then putting it on DVDs. Obviously, at some later date, they may want to re-use that video in another project, and may no longer have access to the original videotapes.

Being able to re-use DVD material is one of the most legitimate and necessary functions for future DVD authoring programs. If DVDA doesn't offer this, they will lose in the marketplace.

Now, to answer the original poster's question. Click on these links for the answers:

VOB files

Extracting Video from a DVD image
MJhig wrote on 4/1/2004, 3:30 PM
I am skeptical when these issues arise. I do PC Doctor work and in my travels the vast majority of PCs I work on are loaded with bootleg Operating Systems and Software, downloaded MP3s and ripped DVDs. Of course many of the problems I'm called on to solve are from components installed along with apps such as Kazaa etc. or viruses directly attributed to file sharing. They deserve to have to pay me for this behavior but the point is my naivete has long ago been washed away and replaced with skepticism.

I used to answer posts on Microsoft's Win 98 forum and was posed a question about transferring vinyl to CD. I recommended Sound Forge. After subsequent posts and eventually direct email correspondence walking him through every step to no avail then eventually remotely controlling his PC, setting up his soundcard and Sound Forge, eliminating all the spyware on his PC along with other general PC tweaks to get his system functioning reliably all for free over about 8 hours, I asked the question "How were you able to get Sound Forge so fast?". He replied Kazaa.

I now look through the glass from the other side.

Virtually everyone is taking video they have created with their camcorders and then putting it on DVDs.

Aren't you guilty of making assumptions?

MJ

johnmeyer wrote on 4/1/2004, 8:07 PM
Aren't you guilty of making assumptions?

Perhaps, but I am definitely not guilty of making pre-judgments. What's more, I view it as my role -- and I believe it should be the role of everyone else that enters this forum and puts their fingers on the keyboard -- to HELP someone, not berate them. Remaining silent IS an option.
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The DVD recordable market is booming. As part of this boom, I am sure that lots of Hollywood DVDs are being copied using DVD2One, DVD Shrink, DVDxCopy, etc. However, I also know that a huge number of DVDs are being created by people who want to archive their old VHS tapes; put their new DV creations on a more navigable medium; and also (legally) "tape" their favorite TV shows (which can be done with an increasing number of consumer DVD recorders that are bundled into "Tivo"-style PVRs [Personal Video Recorders] ).

As I've said in many posts, including one earlier in this thread, it would be suicide for Sony -- or any other DVD authoring software vendor -- to ignore the huge market for legitimate re-purposing of DVD content either outright owned by the user, or legitimately licensed or used (in the case of off-the-air taping, which has been legal since the early 1980's).
farss wrote on 4/2/2004, 3:40 AM
And what's even more absurd, Sony sells a number of cameras that record directly to DVDs with ac3 encoded audio. I've tried everything to edit these DVDs with zero success. It seems the headers in the .VOB files are written incorrectly as even BeSweet thinks there's only a few seconds of audio there and Vegas trips up on the video as well.
Some DVD players will NOT even play the DVDs straight out of the cameras either, the audio stops at the same point.

I'd also mention I've hit the same problem as the client having only a copy of the material on DVD, one that I'd produced for him some time ago.
This whole issue is a nightmare and one that's going to get MUCH worse. There are 100,000s of consummers out there who are being told that DVD is the safest way to store video, it'll last 100 years no problems. Well maybe it will and maybe it won't but it's all rather academic if they can't really do anything with the damn material on it.

I think the industry as a whole needs to get it's s**t together real quick, they're forcing Joe Average to use the same tools as the hackers just to use something they've been sold as a the way of the future and then the industry is going to have a winge about the number of people ripping off commercial DVDs. I don't have the first clue as to how to resolve this, all I can see is a worsening morass and a lot of very unhappy customers.