Interesting...Dual-Core vs. Dual-Processor

riredale wrote on 11/8/2005, 9:29 AM
An article over at Tom's Hardware concludes that it's currently more cost-effective to go the dual-processor route than to use a single processor with dual cores. One interesting result is that a dual-processor setup means the user will be able to easily upgrade in the future by replacing the processors themselves with dual-core units, creating a quad system.

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seanfl wrote on 11/8/2005, 12:34 PM
Darn! and I just built an AMD x2 4800+ system (single chip, dual core). Although it doesn't look like I'm missing any performance compared to using two 2.2 chips (as the article uses to compare)...I did overspend by a few hundred dollars compared to what they're suggesting.

I guess down the road, a new motherboard with two opteron dual cores will be the way to go!

Thanks for the link...


Sean
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Coursedesign wrote on 11/8/2005, 1:13 PM
What did I miss in reading this?

Nearly 100% of the tests showed one dualcore beating two single core CPUs, then the conclusion was that two single cores were better?
Ben1000 wrote on 11/8/2005, 2:10 PM
Not sure this was really a fair comparison, as the top of the line processors are ALWAYS way overpriced than the 2nd or 3rd tier of processors...

I have just upgraded an old P4 system. I swapped out the motherboard for $89 and added an AMD X2 4400+ for $440, and then overclocked it to the same speed as 4800+.

Less than $600 for the whole upgrade (still using my same drives and such). The thing flies now compared with the old one. I don't think I could have done the same for cheaper going with a dual-proc board and 2 processors...

Regards,

Ben
rmack350 wrote on 11/8/2005, 5:22 PM
It was a price/performance ratio and they decided that the dual cores weren't worth it right now because of the expense.

Maybe when you factor in an increase in income or free time then they become worth it again ;-)

Rob Mack
riredale wrote on 11/8/2005, 9:55 PM
One other thing in favor of going the x2 route--less heat. I'm assuming that the second processor is eating, say, 80w extra. Louder fans, bigger power supply too. I'll bet these systems run hot.

Next thing you know some case manufacturer will be featuring a little "toaster oven" slot, where you can reheat your burrito when it's too far to walk to the kitchen late at night.
BrianStanding wrote on 11/9/2005, 8:42 AM
I think the idea was that with a dual single-core processor system, you could upgrade to dual-cores at some point in the future and get a quad-core.
Coursedesign wrote on 11/9/2005, 9:48 AM
Next thing you know some case manufacturer will be featuring a little "toaster oven" slot, where you can reheat your burrito when it's too far to walk to the kitchen late at night.

To thaw frozen burritos (Trader Joe's ditto are better than what's served in many restaurants), you need a Dual Xeon machine with Intel's new dual core CPUs. The motherboard alone uses 400 watts. With a 500 watt graphics card and few 10K drives in the box, you'll be just enough above 1 kilowatt where you can just put 2 burritos side-by-side in an open 5 1/4" slot and they will thaw faster than in a microwave.

Of course microwaves stop when the burritos are ready. This puppy will continue to heat your house and drain your electrical bill even after you finish eating the burritos... :O)

Now imagine a LAN party with 300 of these machines. First you have to find a 110 V 3000 A outlet... :O) Then turn on the 400 kW air conditioner (hoping for 75% efficiency), or more likely open all windows and contribute to global warming...

Power and heat are becoming important factors in PC design for sure.

Keeping this Dual Xeon going around the clock would consume 1.05 kW x 24 h x 30 days = about 750 kWh/month which in Los Angeles would cost as much as a car payment ... For the electricity.


R0cky wrote on 11/9/2005, 1:55 PM
Workstation versions of Windows (XP, 2K, NT) do not support more than 2 CPUs. Only the higher end server versions of windows do, and those are the big bucks.

So, a dual CPU machine is not upgradeable with dual core cpus as that looks like 4 CPUs to windows.
Zion wrote on 11/9/2005, 4:09 PM
Hello bastinado

Windows XP will take advantage of two dual core cpus. I saw this some were on the microsoft sight. In the device manager it will only
show two cpus, but it will use all four cores.


ZION
Zion wrote on 11/9/2005, 4:21 PM
Hello riredale

You wrote " One other thing in favor of going the x2 route--less heat. I'm assuming that the second processor is eating, say, 80w extra. Louder fans, bigger power supply too. I'll bet these systems run hot."

I have two optrons in a thermatake case($120.00) with two 12mm fans: Very quiet run at 1550rpms: Both cpus at full load for over 8hours max temp 36c. My old p4 3.0 single cpu was 58c and higher.

I find these new cpus in the right case run alot cooler.

550watt PS

ZION